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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by dgwicks [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by ohlemeier [quote]Originally posted by futuremodal [/quote] Easy there, Big Fella! Where do you get your numbers? Is that 25 million discrete people, or trips? It is probably trips. My wife took two trips on Amtrak this year, and so did I. Were we counted as two specific people or four trips? Probably four trips. NYC has about 8 million but I doubt many of them ride Amtrak. A lot ride the subway, Metro North, and NJT. MN has an annual ridership of approx. 62 million. And that is trips. So obviously there aren't a lot of New Yorkers riding Amtrak in comparison to Metro North. NEC ridership is about 11 million. In the case of MN and the NEC I suspect that a lot of these trips are repeat business so 11 million different people are not riding Amtrak in the NEC. On MN I would imagine most people are commuters making 10 trips a week so the number of individuals would be about 120,000. Yes, 120,000 because they do it five days a week, 52 weeks a year, and MN says their ridership is 240,000 trips per day. Applying that same analysis to the Amtrak number of 25 million and assuming they are all 5 day a week commuters that would be about 1.7% of the people ride Amtrak. Since we know that isn't a valid assumption, because my wife and I do not commute on Amtrak, the true number is probably greater but far less than the 10% that you claim because Amtrak is counting trips, not individuals. Also, serving, or being available doesn't mean people will ride it. New York City proves that. A population of 8 million, more if you incude everything on the Bos-Wash corridor, and only 11 million riders in a year? To quote you, "I respectfully suggest you do some research before making sweeping generalizations." [/quote] Nice try, but that in no way indicates 99.7% of Americans haven't tried or don't have access to Amtrak. So..... the 500 million or so who flew last year.... they in no way can be per person. Those are likely people that have flown 20-30 times a year and include many foreigners. Get this: Amtrak ridership - INCLUDING THE LDS - is at an all-time high. Even that isn't enough to please picky "railfans" who would prefer people fly. What a joke. (They don't advocate privatizing the airline infrastructure and stiffing THAT industry out of proper funding). Again, so-called railfans continue slamming Amtrak. If we only repeat lies long enough, the monster that no one wants will go away....
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