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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by Junctionfan</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by Limitedclear</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by Junctionfan</i> <br /><br />Oh really Limitedclear... <br /> <br />The idea is negotiating first but despite what you say, Amtrak (through the federal government) can force the issue with passenger service. This wouldn't cut into the railroad's profit because other than the CP Expressway, they lack the interest in providing anything but long-haul intermodal where as my idea is gear for the medium to short haul. <br /> <br />You seem pretty quick to criticise and slow to keep an open-mind about thease things;why is that? <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />Because you have ONE answer for everything. Make the Government fix "IT", whatever it maybe. As I, Ed and others have tried to explain to you seemingly endless times, the United States is not a socialist state. So, the government doesn't just step in to fix everything. Frankly, the government stepping in is pretty much a bottom drawer option only as when they do step in it usually results in a mess dues to poplitical realities taking precedence over economic and practical constraints. <br /> <br />As to Amtrak, the ONLY reason Amtrak has the right to run passenger trains over freight railroads is that the freight railroads willingly gave them that right in exchange for getting out of the unprofitable passenger business. That does not in any way extend to freight, nor does it give the government the extra-Constitutional right to just force Amtrak on the freight railroads. Perhaps a little research on the origins of Amtrak on your part would make you able to have a more informed and realistic approach to this discussion. I realize that at 25 you weren't more than an infant during much of the formation of Amtrak, but there are a number of good books on the subject. <br /> <br />LC <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />If the government owns it, than the government should fix it..There is nothing socialist about. No railroad wants to go back into the passenger service so who do think should run it? My idea is to venture out and find other ways to lessen the financial burden of funding Amtrak by having them do other things that the railroads don't seem to have an interest in. Why should private institutions be the only ones givin the opportunity to run a business? I thought the U.S was the "land of the free" so if the private entities have the right to build a business up, than why shouldn't the voters through the government, do the same? It is a hell of a lot cheaper for the tax payers if Amtrak can find ways to make itself more profitable than just having to constantly depend on funding from the government. <br /> <br />You are a classic example of a nay-sayer, doom-sayer and protector of the status quo. This is the reason why Amtrak got into trouble in the first place because the government had that kind of attitude of clouded-thinking that has made Amtrak so screwed up. I maybe 25 and inexperienced in thease matters but at least I have the open-minded intelligence to find alternatives in order to preserve something that many people would like to use but are unable because it is inefficient for the moment. <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />Nope, just a realist and a freedom loving American who has served his country in ways you can't even imagine. <br /> <br />You should heed the First Rule of Holes:: "When in one, quit digging" <br /> <br />As Mark Hemphill correctly points out your ideas are confiscatory, and just plain foolish and unrealsitic. Perhaps he is right, you may be more dictatorial than socialist. After all when Mussolini controlled Italy the trains ran on time... <br /> <br />LC
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