Hazmat Dreailment And Fire In North Dakota

[caldreamer]

Fox news in reporting with a video that a Canadian Pacific Kansas City train derailed with between 10 and 15 of the rail cars catching fire in a remote area of North Dakota.  Does anyone have any updates or additional information?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/train-hauling-hazardous-material-derails-catches-fire-north-dakota

[cx500]

Look News Wire part of this site to get one update.

[caldreamer]

I tried to signup for the wire and get an "unable to register" error message.

[Flintlock76]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/train-hauling-hazardous-material-derails-catches-fire-north-dakota  

Lit it up for you!

Meanwhile, back in Pennsylvania...

https://dailyvoice.com/pennsylvania/montgomery/norfolk-southern-train-derails-in-bethlehem/

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Flintlock76

Meanwhile, back in Pennsylvania...

https://dailyvoice.com/pennsylvania/montgomery/norfolk-southern-train-derails-in-bethlehem/

Oh, gee.  Five empty cars derailed.  Nothing blocked.  No spillage.

Of course, they just couldn't help mentioning two cars of hazmat in the train... nowhere near the point of derailment and not associated with it in any way.

[caldreamer]

Thanks for lighting up the story.  Anhydrous ammonia is nasty stuff and burning sulfur produces hydrogen sulfide gas. it is very poisonous. Methyl alcohol (Methanol) will just burn, but will ignite other flammable materials. Glad to read that no one was hurt and that it occured in a remote area.

[Overmod]

Burning sulfur produces sulfur dioxide, SO2.  Hydrogen sulfide (aka 'sulfuretted hydrogen' in older references) is H2S, which isn't produced by combustion.

Both are plenty poisonous, though, and to be avoided.

[Flintlock76]

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Oh, gee.  Five empty cars derailed.  Nothing blocked.  No spillage. Of course, they just couldn't help mentioning two cars of hazmat in the train... nowhere near the point of derailment and not associated with it in any way.

Your sarcasm was put to good use Mod-man! 

However, N-S has to realize that ever since East Palestine they've been under a microscope by the press and that "slide" isn't going to be pulled out anytime soon, fairly or unfairly.

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Flintlock76

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Oh, gee.  Five empty cars derailed.  Nothing blocked.  No spillage. Of course, they just couldn't help mentioning two cars of hazmat in the train... nowhere near the point of derailment and not associated with it in any way.

Your sarcasm was put to good use Mod-man! 

However, N-S has to realize that ever since East Palestine they've been under a microscope by the press and that "slide" isn't going to be pulled out anytime soon, fairly or unfairly.

Not just the media -- believe me, parts of the Government are giving them a kind of 'strict scrutiny' too.

[ChuckCobleigh]

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Burning sulfur produces sulfur dioxide, SO2.  Hydrogen sulfide (aka 'sulfuretted hydrogen' in older references) is H2S, which isn't produced by combustion.

Both are plenty poisonous, though, and to be avoided.

 

Both gasses were common products of B&W photographic processes 60 years ago. H2S from various brown toner solutions, for instance, and SO2 from common fixer solutions. My recollection is that the SO2 would leave a gnarly taste in the mouth after breathing it enough. When I started doing color processing in the 60s, you could add formaldehyde fumes from the so-called formalin fixer. There was also something that imparted a sweetish smell from color developers; I never found out what that was.

 

By 1973, the yellow-box folks had reformulated the processing chemicals to get rid of a lot of the seriously toxic stuff in the earlier versions and cutting the wet time for processing by half. Progress.