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Administrative Leave
Posted by PJS1 on Monday, April 24, 2023 10:09 AM

If a police officer(s) is involved in a shooting that kills or seriously hurts someone, he/she is usually placed on administrative leave until the situation is investigated.

If a train is involved in a serious accident, are the train crew and perhaps the dispatcher placed on administrative leave while the incident is being investigated?

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Posted by Cotton Belt MP104 on Monday, April 24, 2023 10:39 AM

As a former crew carrier (van driver), more than once I've transported crews AFTER a fatal grade crossing train/car crash. THE CREW has the option of staying on board, but most of the time they chose to be transported to next terminal. AND they are promised counseling. I experienced the worst reaction of one crew member after the fact, and he was the more senior member of the crew. After one suicide a RR cop told the crew, that (suicide) person saw a BIG machine coming to do the dirty deed, but he did not realize two human beings in the cab will remember this for the rest of their lives. If your are a crew (T/E) the longer you work, it's not IF but when and how often you will experience a grade crossing accident (realize NOT all fatal) endmrw0424231038

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, April 24, 2023 7:36 PM

We can get up to 3 paid days off for "critical incident" after an incident, vehicle or tresspasser.  There is also peer support available.  I don't know if it's optional, but I can't think of anyone who didn't get transported home no matter which leg of the trip they were on, outbound or inbound.

It's the luck of the draw.  Of my training engineers, one had multiple grade crossing incidents that resulted in 8 fatalities over his career.  Not all of his incidents resulted in fatalities either.

Another only had one grade crossing incident in his career, which was longer than the other engineer mentioned.  It didn't result in an injury or fatality, just a big dent in the rear wheel well of a pickup.  He wasn't even running the train at the time.  I was. 

That's been my only one so far, too.  

Jeff

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, April 24, 2023 8:10 PM

jeffhergert
We can get up to 3 paid days off for "critical incident" after an incident, vehicle or tresspasser.  There is also peer support available.  I don't know if it's optional, but I can't think of anyone who didn't get transported home no matter which leg of the trip they were on, outbound or inbound.

It's the luck of the draw.  Of my training engineers, one had multiple grade crossing incidents that resulted in 8 fatalities over his career.  Not all of his incidents resulted in fatalities either.

Another only had one grade crossing incident in his career, which was longer than the other engineer mentioned.  It didn't result in an injury or fatality, just a big dent in the rear wheel well of a pickup.  He wasn't even running the train at the time.  I was. 

That's been my only one so far, too.  

Jeff

CSX also had Critical Incident Relief system in place. Crews involved in incidents would be relieved, unless they requested not to be - I can on recall one that didn't avail themselves of CIR.

If you run road jobs it is only a matter of when, not if a incident will happen; be that a road crossing incident or a direct suicide by train incident.

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