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Something you don't hear about very often. Train hits barge.

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Something you don't hear about very often. Train hits barge.
Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, November 15, 2021 8:40 PM

A BNSF coal train hit a barge near Montrose IA along the Mississippi River.  Somehow the barge ended up fouling the BNSF track.

Train derails after hitting barge along the Mississippi River in Lee County - Radio Iowa

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, November 15, 2021 9:44 PM

Ya know, we had a couple of trees on the tracks today, but a barge?

Usually the conversation in the cab goes, "Tree...  TREE..." followed by brakes, etc.

Just imagine the conversation in that cab...

I did hit one, but it was just the top branches and of little consequence...

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, November 15, 2021 9:45 PM

Is the river abnormally high?  Not yet flooding the railroad but making it so the vessel can still be 'floating' with part of it fouling the railroad tracks.

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, November 15, 2021 10:07 PM

I'm pretty impressed with Caroline Davis.

 

 

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:14 AM

Towboat operator and crew got some 'splainin to do?

Coming soon to a floodwall near you - ENS Signs?

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 5:18 AM

Interestingly, I recall reading of some similar incidents in vintage issues of Trains. 

Thanks to the magic of their DVD archives, here's some examples. 

1913 - L&N freight on the Memphis branch collided with the packet boat Lochie S at Cumberland Tenn. The boat was unknowingly steaming over the L&N's bridge in flood conditions when it collided with the passing train.

1948 - ACL's Everglades struck the bow of a military LCI landing craft that had came loose from its moorings and became lodged on ACL's bridge at Dayton Hall SC. 

1950 - Mississippi River barge broke free and went aground at Keokuk IA with its bow protruding over the Burlington's tracks. The Mark Twain Zephyr struck it, derailing the locomotive and trailing baggage car.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 8:05 AM

Montrose is 15-20 miles north of the 1950 incident.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 8:16 AM

BaltACD

Is the river abnormally high?  Not yet flooding the railroad but making it so the vessel can still be 'floating' with part of it fouling the railroad tracks.

Check out the difference between water level and the top of the rail on a normal day.   I don't know where the river is at in regards to flood stage.  Looks pretty close to the water in Montrose, IA.   That piddly pile of rocks is not going to stop a barge unless it is moving very slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-6PM4p6--E

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 8:24 AM

CMStPnP
 
BaltACD

Is the river abnormally high?  Not yet flooding the railroad but making it so the vessel can still be 'floating' with part of it fouling the railroad tracks. 

Check out the difference between water level and the top of the rail on a normal day.   I don't know where the river is at in regards to flood stage.  Looks pretty close to the water in Montrose, IA.   That piddly pile of rocks is not going to stop a barge unless it is moving very slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-6PM4p6--E

If what is pictured is the 'normal' stage of the river - it doesn't leave much room for when Mother Nature gets angry,

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:05 PM

Not a train or a barge - 

Tamper hits pick-up truck

https://youtu.be/L7adZFRV3lY

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Posted by SD60MAC9500 on Sunday, January 2, 2022 7:06 PM

BaltACD

Not a train or a barge - 

Tamper hits pick-up truck

https://youtu.be/L7adZFRV3lY

 

Ok this has got too be a first getting hit by a tamper... 

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:38 PM

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BaltACD

Not a train or a barge - 

Tamper hits pick-up truck

https://youtu.be/L7adZFRV3lY 

Ok this has got too be a first getting hit by a tamper... 

Tampers move at such high speeds - even when not tamping.[/sarcasm]

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, January 2, 2022 9:34 PM

Having only a photo and limited information to work with...

It's possible that the driver in question was caught at a traffic light when the gates went down, and had no where to go.

Or got caught by the gates and didn't know what to do.

It's happened before.

Better than that fellow who was standing next to his vehicle as it was about to be hit.  Or should I say, standing behind his vehicle.  Fortunately, when his car was hit, it spun around and didn't hit him.  

 

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, January 3, 2022 2:41 AM

SD60MAC9500

 

 
BaltACD

Not a train or a barge - 

Tamper hits pick-up truck

https://youtu.be/L7adZFRV3lY

 

 

 

Ok this has got too be a first getting hit by a tamper... 

 

A common problem ... Just like a Hi-rail, it has to flag a crossing. Tampers/lines, no matter how big, are NOT considered to be a train or locomotive.

Somewhat surprising it was a big Plasser wireliner (RM-2000 "Roadmaster") with two cabs. Somebody is in hot water. Was the MO in the back cab while travelling -or- in the central cab with the workheads.???

Frankly expected to see a Fairmont/Canron Tamper or a Jackson with shadowboards creating a vision problem instead of a "Prussian Nightmare" Plasser wireliner.

 

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Posted by SD60MAC9500 on Monday, January 3, 2022 9:13 AM

mudchicken

 

 
SD60MAC9500

 

 
BaltACD

Not a train or a barge - 

Tamper hits pick-up truck

https://youtu.be/L7adZFRV3lY

 

 

 

Ok this has got too be a first getting hit by a tamper... 

 

 

 

A common problem ... Just like a Hi-rail, it has to flag a crossing. Tampers/lines, no matter how big, are NOT considered to be a train or locomotive.

 

Somewhat surprising it was a big Plasser wireliner (RM-2000 "Roadmaster") with two cabs. Somebody is in hot water. Was the MO in the back cab while travelling -or- in the central cab with the workheads.???

Frankly expected to see a Fairmont/Canron Tamper or a Jackson with shadowboards creating a vision problem instead of a "Prussian Nightmare" Plasser wireliner.

 

 

I've been noticing more Plasser equimpent on the rails lately. The week before Christmas thy were out doing some tamping on the Grand Trunk by my place. It was the same model of Plasser in the news story.

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Posted by Lithonia Operator on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 7:52 AM

mudchicken
Somebody is in hot water.

Yes, no doubt someone in management lost their tamper.

Still in training.


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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:55 AM

Thanks L.O. You got a good laugh with that.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 4:39 PM

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mudchicken
Somebody is in hot water.

Yes, no doubt someone in management lost their tamper.

Or did they just complain 'Why OUR liner?'

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, January 10, 2022 11:38 AM

And now for something completely different - Train hits Airplane.  

Happened in LA.  Pilot made an emergency landing, ended up on a crossing.  Police made a heroic save, getting him out just before a Metrolink train reached the crossing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JMlX3m0u0o

Comments on FB were along the line of "didn't they call?"  "Don't they know about the blue signs?"

As you can see in the video, that wasn't really an option at the moment.

Another video available on-line shows a couple of people nearly being hit by the debris from the plane being hit.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, January 10, 2022 1:04 PM

tree68
And now for something completely different - Train hits Airplane.  

Happened in LA.  Pilot made an emergency landing, ended up on a crossing.  Police made a heroic save, getting him out just before a Metrolink train reached the crossing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JMlX3m0u0o

Comments on FB were along the line of "didn't they call?"  "Don't they know about the blue signs?"

As you can see in the video, that wasn't really an option at the moment.

Another video available on-line shows a couple of people nearly being hit by the debris from the plane being hit.

Remember there is a communication chain that has to be negotiated once the incident is first reported to the railroad for the notification to ultimately get to the individual train that is approaching the crossing.  Remember on a Class 1 railroad there are thousands of road crossings in hundreds of political jurisdictions and there are hundreds of trains moving at any given time.  Negotiating that chain does take some time - generally withing a minute or two - but at 60 MPH for the train involved, that is one to two miles or more with faster trains.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Monday, January 10, 2022 4:40 PM

And now: Train HITS PLANE

https://abc7.com/pacoima-plane-down-crash-metrolink-train-video-of-pilot-being-saved/11447057/

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, January 10, 2022 6:38 PM

I posted a new thread about the train hitting plane before I saw this thread.

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