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Dixie Fire and Feather River Canyon

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Dixie Fire and Feather River Canyon
Posted by YoHo1975 on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 12:16 PM

So, I posted in the thread on the Lava Fire and the lost UP bridge, but the Dixie Fire has enveloped the Feather River Canyon. Currently dangerously close to Quincy. Keddie is in the middle of it.

There's been news articles about UP using the fire train in the Canyon, but I cannot find any News Stories aboutthe line being shut down. It ABSOLUTELY has been shut down with major infra damage, but unlike the lava fire, this hasn't been reported.

I take the lack of reporting to indicate that they haven't lost the Keddie Wye or any of the other Iconic major bridges YET, but still. And that means UP and BNSF are shut down.

And that was the routing much of UP's N-S traffic was beign diverted to. So where is it going now? And BNSF is routing through Denver, where are their N-S trains going? Down the joint line and over the Transcon? Presumably this is putting pressure on Donner.

Sitting here in Roseville, aside from the Valley sub being quiet, it's been hard to quantify the changes.

Curious if anyone knows more.

There was speculation on Altamont Press discussion board that UP may choose to get rid of the Canyon Sub rather than Rebuild again. Curious what people here thing of that. 

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 11:28 PM
I take it from the Crickets that nobody has any info or thoughts. ;) For those of you in Northern California and along I5 in Oregon, word is that UP is detouring 2 trains up CORP tomorrow. MRVEU (Manifest Roseville-Eugene) MRVCOX (Manifest Roseville-CORP-Extra) I don't have times for either, but if you want to chase some big power going over the Siskiyous pass...
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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, July 29, 2021 12:00 AM

I don't have any knowledge of the area so commenting would be a waste of time - I know that doesn't stop others, but it does stop me.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Thursday, July 29, 2021 12:40 AM

This was 4 days ago, UP trying to save the wye. I'm assuming they succeeded (Facebook link for those that don't like facebook) https://www.facebook.com/100009288782788/videos/pcb.1918214558341338/966339427496645

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Posted by David1005 on Thursday, July 29, 2021 1:36 AM

From what I have read, the UP was able to protect the Feather River Canyon trackage. There may be some minor damage to repair, and this kind of fire results in trees falling over for weeks after the flames ard controlled, which may block the tracks.  But the canyon should be open soon as the fire is controlled. I do not believe the BNSF did as well with the High Line. They may have had at least one of the steel bridges damaged. 

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Thursday, July 29, 2021 2:48 AM
What I've heard is the line to beiber lost at least one tressel. I've also heard that large portions of th frc have burned up ties that must be replaces. Condition of the rails TBD. I also heard one bridge out, but that statement was less specific than the beiber info.
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Posted by Ed Kyle on Thursday, July 29, 2021 4:17 PM

On the Rochelle cam yesterday I watched for five hours and saw only one real UP train, an eastbound stack that appeared to have international boxes.  There was another odd train that only had three box cars pulled by three big locomotives.  UP usually runs at least a train an hour on average through Rochelle, if not more, these days.  Fires impacting traffic this far east?

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Posted by David1005 on Friday, July 30, 2021 1:19 AM

As I recall most of the ties in the Canyon are concrete. I did hear that there was some tunnel damage. I think the tunnels are either rock or concrete lined. There may be some wood retaining walls at the entrances.  The bridges and turnouts are wood ties. 

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Posted by David1005 on Friday, July 30, 2021 3:51 AM

To update what I posted earlier, I just finished listening to the Incident Management Team 7:00 pm briefing. They said that there was a tunnel damaged, but it was the Elephant tunnel, which is a tunnel on highway 70, not a railroad tunnel. It appears that the report that a railroad tunnel was damaged by the fire was a misinturption of available data. 

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