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ANSWER ME THIS
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:31 PM

How come in 1970 it took 4 guys to crew a freight train and 2 guys to do the evening news on TV. And now it only takes 2 guys to crew a freight train and 5 guys to do the evening news?

Youth wants to know. And now a word from our sponsor.

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Posted by jeaton on Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:06 PM
Mitch-

I'm working on it. I think you have found a good topic for a two hour "History's Mysteries" on the History Channel. We can get Mark to write it. Obviously, you will get the graphics.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:06 PM
The wounderfull world of TV!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:23 PM
'Cuz TV can afford to hire extra people, the RR's can't.
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Posted by RudyRockvilleMD on Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:17 PM
You guys asked the wrong question. The right question is: How many guys or gals does it take to report the day's news?

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Posted by gabe on Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:03 PM
Simple,

Market pressures support and demand five people in the newsroom just as market pressures do not support and demand five people in the cab.

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Posted by jeaton on Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RudyRockvilleMD

You guys asked the wrong question. The right question is: How many guys or gals does it take to report the day's news?

Rudy


Well-At least one to hold the light bulb.[:D][:D][:D]

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Posted by jeaton on Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:40 AM
tomtrain

Should we explain that Ray Scott predated remote volumn control? That device wasn't necessary because Mr. Scott was not joined in the booth with two other guys and all of them stressing vocal cords to the max.

Come to think of it-that is the answer to the original question posted by Mitch. No one person could shout that loud through an entire newscast.

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Posted by DSchmitt on Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:22 PM
The reasons it takes 5 people on the news:
1: New readers are geting dumber. 2: They are trying to hide point 1 by implying that they are experts in different phases of the news.

I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.

I don't have a leg to stand on.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:02 PM
Technology.

A little box and lineside detectors now do a significant part of what was done from the caboose on an over-the-road train.

The people involved in presenting the news (or what passes for it) have gone from behind the camera to in front of it. For on-scene reports it's no longer necessary to develop the film, edit it, then run it on the air. One person with a remote van (satellite uplink, no less) can now report "live from the scene." In addition, the two or three cameramen in the studio have been replaced by robots, and the projectionists and other support personnel in the control room aren't necessary. Even videotape is being replaced by computers. Director and switcher is about it, and that may be the same person...

Come to think of it, it probably takes less people to put on a newscast as well.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:21 PM
...As we continue to find ways to do operations without employees....In the long haul, I wonder who will be earning the wage to purchase products we try to make....

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...As we continue to find ways to do operations without employees....In the long haul, I wonder who will be earning the wage to purchase products we try to make....


It's like my father said in 1973. "Someday we'll all be doing each other's laundry." Or as my attorney said, "We'll just be selling anuities to one another."

When I started this thread I meant it in jest. I wanted to see how many funny remarks we could get. But now comes some serious questions. We've moved Trenton NJ to China (What Trenton makes, the world takes.) so I'm curious as to what we still make here besides parking lots.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...As we continue to find ways to do operations without employees....In the long haul, I wonder who will be earning the wage to purchase products we try to make....


Not only robots but outsourcing as well, as stated above.

This is actually a very true reality that has dire consequences.

What's slowly happening is the "middle class" that the industrial revolution created is now getting smaller, as outsourcing and robots take the jobs of the average worker. As a result, there will once again be a large gap between the people living large in the upper class and people who are living in the lower classes/poverty.

It's all just a matter of time before the middle class is nothing more than a faint memory.

Someone sitting in a mill doing the same repetitive task 1000 times a day five days a week (for honest pay) may not sound like an important job, but it's the glue of the middle class society, a very big deal indeed.
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Posted by jeaton on Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:58 PM
Mitch

In keeping in jest (maybe), a shot at pre-TV media went like this. "Life magazine is for people who can't read and Time magazine is for people who can't think."

Now both conditions are accommodated at one place.

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Posted by AlcoRS11Nut on Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:15 PM
Never thought of that. (smileing to myself)
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Posted by adrianspeeder on Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:02 PM
Most people are morons, the news is moronic, so the two go together to get more money by having more morons on the shows.

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Posted by MP57313 on Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by artmark
(What Trenton makes, the world takes.) Mitch

I've seen that sign on the bridge when riding the NEC. It always sounded "resentful" to me, as if the world was full of ungrateful thieves. They must not have meant it that way.
As for the other points in this thread...I do see the disappearance of the middle class as a big issue and a major problem for the future of the country.
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Posted by jchnhtfd on Monday, January 17, 2005 10:31 AM
Very briefly put: railroaders are really bright, hard working, people, and getting and working smarter every single day. This is manifestly not true of newscasters, my friends...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 17, 2005 3:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MP57313

QUOTE: Originally posted by artmark
(What Trenton makes, the world takes.) Mitch

I've seen that sign on the bridge when riding the NEC. It always sounded "resentful" to me, as if the world was full of ungrateful thieves. They must not have meant it that way.
As for the other points in this thread...I do see the disappearance of the middle class as a big issue and a major problem for the future of the country.


I believe that the undercurrent of the sign "What Trenton Makes the World Takes," comes from a time when Trenton was a manufacturing giant, and the products produced there were used world-wide. And the city was quite proud of it.
I guess a new sign would read,"What they make, we gotta take."

Mitch

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