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Brand new gons with white covers
Posted by Rambo2 on Monday, April 27, 2020 3:39 PM

What would they carry with covers?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, April 27, 2020 3:46 PM

Much more information is needed.  If they're fiberglass covers, probably "dirty dirt".  If they're steel covers, possibly coil steel or another commodity requiring protection.

Do you have a reporting mark and number?

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Posted by chutton01 on Monday, April 27, 2020 3:49 PM

Well, they could be in protein service (Link).
Were they refurbished - they could be in C&D, MSW or contaminated 'dirty dirt' service.
Maybe flat stock steel service (not coil steel service - although maybe that could be true, I think the majority of that goes in coil cars).

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Posted by cv_acr on Monday, April 27, 2020 3:55 PM

Lacking context as to location, etc., non-ferrous ore concentrate is a common service that requires fiberglass covers.

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Posted by csxns on Monday, April 27, 2020 6:25 PM

What about coal ash Riverbend steam station hauled out ash to a landfield with gons with covers.

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Posted by Rambo2 on Monday, April 27, 2020 8:30 PM

Mwcx 200391 white cover carl 

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Posted by Rambo2 on Monday, April 27, 2020 8:35 PM

What is dirty dirt and where would it be sent to?

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Posted by Rambo2 on Monday, April 27, 2020 8:38 PM

I think they are refurbished cars 

 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, April 27, 2020 8:38 PM

chutton01

Well, they could be in protein service (Link).
Were they refurbished - they could be in C&D, MSW or contaminated 'dirty dirt' service.
Maybe flat stock steel service (not coil steel service - although maybe that could be true, I think the majority of that goes in coil cars).

           I think that  chutton01 is pretty close on in his description of the covered gons that transit through this area (So.Cntrl. Ks.) on a fairly regular basis....The link he provided shows a 'converted' covered 'bathtub-style'  still in BN paint (old)....

Here is a link to a kato brand model covered hopper chutton01 described @ https://katousa.com/N/Bethgon/ProteinGondolaRender1.jpg

I have been told; they are 'protine' [animal feed suplement] cars  they come though this area, going westbound [loaded], and return empty, going northbound [towards Wichita].       The loaded trains will, generally, include 3 or 4 loaded tank cars {some sort of liquid supplement?}.         Returning empty, they seem to be combined into a 'doubled' [5K'+ Question train of emptys(?), and a half dozen (+,-) tank cars.

 Their origin seems to be north of Kansas City area (?).  Central Illinois,maybe(?) Destination, I think is Tx. or some very,large, feeder operation, (unknown location).

Their covers are a 'white' colored canvas(?). I suspect they are converted from they types of 'bathtub' gons; possibly, that were in some power-plant coal delivery service. And have been converted to their current use { the top rail configurations have been slightly altered, and always seem to remain covered, empty or loaded ?

 

 


 

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Posted by Rambo2 on Monday, April 27, 2020 8:54 PM
I saw them on cn line north toronto vaughan area
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Posted by chutton01 on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:05 AM

Rambo2

What is dirty dirt and where would it be sent to?


Soil contaminated with heavy metals like lead or (almost metal) arsenic, chemicals soaked into the soil (including oil) and potentially even low level radioactive substances from former industrial or mining/milling operations and the like.
Here's a story about the newish Everett casino (near Boston) built on reclaimed former industrial land after the contaminated soil was removed (by rail)

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:14 AM

Thank you for the number information.  MWCX 200391 is part of a series of 131 covered gondolas built (not reconditioned) with fiberglass covers (series limits are 200387-200517).  They have been around for a little while, having been built by the Greenbrier Companies between 9/14 and 1/15.

Those are fiberglass covers, not adding much to the weight of the car.  I'm still going with the "dirty dirt" as their cargo.

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Posted by Rambo2 on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:03 PM
Thankyou
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Posted by Gramp on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:55 PM

There were several in a CN train heading north through here the other day. Black gons with white covers. It was interesting because they looked brand new with no tagging. They were mixed in with coil cars. My thought was maybe they were in steel service heading to the steel mill up in Sault Ste. Marie. 

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Posted by Rambo2 on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:31 PM
Gramp where was this? I saw them in vaughan same train?
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Posted by SD70Dude on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:35 PM

cv_acr

Lacking context as to location, etc., non-ferrous ore concentrate is a common service that requires fiberglass covers.

Considering that the OP saw these cars in a train from northern Ontario, this is the most likely answer.  Covered gondolas carrying copper, zinc or other ore concentrates originate daily from mines in Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba and British Columbia.

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Posted by cv_acr on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:04 PM
Yes, the MWCX cars commonly seen throughout Ontario and Quebec are almost 100% guaranteed to be carrying ore concentrate.
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Posted by PALLJOHN on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:24 AM

I'm new on here and don't usually participate in forums but, The Paducah and Louisville Railway serves the Paducah Gaseous Diffusion Plant. There is currently a contractor working to decommission the plant taking down buildings and removing contaminated soil and equipment.  They are using like new gondola's with white fiberglass tops. The tops are manufactured here in Paducah and put on the gons on a team track in north yard. A P&L xtra job usually takes about 10 or so gons to the plant and picks up the loads turning them over to the CN. 

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Posted by denveroutlaws06 on Friday, May 8, 2020 4:34 PM

Dalhart,TX is the destination for the protein gondolas

https://goo.gl/maps/52xCkjDR28Sfy4Bd8

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, May 8, 2020 5:32 PM

On Saturday, May 2nd This BNSF train passed throughL: It was all covered  gons with the exception of a half-dozen liquid tankers on the rear, in front of the DPU.

Here are some Car ID's &###   SBTX 33031/ SBTX 33072

                                   CRTX- ?   

                                   CGPX 1732/ 1615

                                   TILX   ? 

There were also a number of BN painted (Green Logo areas) in the train, same canvas covers, and  modifications as the ones listed above. 

They regularly transit this area(W Bnd) loaded, and return empty via Wichita (N or E Bnd) as trains that appear to be doubled up in length; ie: twice as long as they were when loaded(?).

 

 

 


 

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Posted by Gramp on Friday, May 8, 2020 10:29 PM

Rambo2, located in NE Wisconsin. 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:25 AM

Welcome, Palljohn!  Nice observation!

Could you possibly provide me with some reporting marks and number(s) off those gons you're seeing?  Want to see whether they're also new.

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