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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 10:12 AM

Think of this as a 'placeholder' for NKP's proposed thread of this name ... and intent.  If he starts one I'll ask the mods to redirect any postings there.

This is for POSITIVE reminiscences of things past, or discussion of other topics, in a friendly and hopefully respectful manner, as 'gentlemen' and 'ladies' might with good whisk(e)y or cocktails in hand in the Tip Top Tap at 100mph.  

"Non-convivial" action should be reserved for, and directed to, the Sour Grapes forum.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 10:45 AM

Well if we're all riding the "bar car" let's not forget to wave at the people trackside.

Why?  Well, as Mike Yuhas, "Trains" magazine advertising sales rep once put it...

"I grew up along the Long Island Railroad, and always waved at the trains, but nobody every waved back.  Except the people in the bar car, they ALWAYS waved back!"

Wonder why?  Whistling

One of the best lines in "Trains" magazine, EVER!

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Posted by NKP guy on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:38 PM

   Thanks to Overmod for his positive response and his urging us in a good direction.

   I'll be glad to contribute the first Reminiscence:

   In 1983 my Mrs. and I travelled to Moosonee, Ont. via Toronto.  We stayed at the Royal York Hotel and had a fine room overlooking the station with a good view of the yards.  The train watching that evening was memorable.

   The following day we rode on a railroad I had never heard of until a couple of months previous.  The Ontario Northland's Northlander was a European-built trainset with large windows, and our ride took us through some stunning scenery.  I remember the Lake Simcoe area as being so attractive that it almost hurt not to be able to get off and walk around or stay there.  We arrived in North Bay by evening.  

   I had called to ask the ONR if I could get a cab ride the next day from Cochrane to Moosonee but they politely refused.  As a consolation prize, however, they offered me a complete tour of their shops and yard at North Bay.  A friendly fellow from middle management took me all around, let me see everything and never rushed me.  It was a great afternoon.

   About 3:30 AM we boarded the overnight VIA train to Cochrane.  We had never slept in sections before.  The wide berths, the heavy wool blankets and the gentle ride got us to Cochrane all too soon.

   We had breakfast in the station restaurant and then boarded the Little Bear, the version of the Polar Bear Express that had flatcars with automobiles, a few box cars, a dining car (!) and a combination of old coaches and even older (c. 1920's) coaches.  I remember there being some attempt at seating whites in the old cars and Indians in the even older cars.

   Never having been a shy and retiring sort, I boldly asked the conductor to ask the engineer if I could have a cab ride.  He, too, politely turned down my request.  But, he offered, would my wife and I enjoy riding in the caboose, instead?  

   So the day was spent in the caboose...by ourselves, as the conductor and others sat elsewhere.  My wife and I enjoyed our private dome car, as it were, and I got to experience a little bit of what working in a caboose must have been like.  Because it was July we had the windows open the entire way to Moosonee and I will never forget the overpowering pine-scented air, the wide rivers, the monotony of the pine forest, the sight of the train going around curves, etc.  It was possibly the best train ride I ever experienced.

   Returning home I scored another caboose ride, this time back to Cochrane, where we were just in time to enjoy the local fair before our evening VIA train to Toronto.

   Every time I have been to Canada I have been treated with respect and kindness.  To me they are the best people in the world.  

   So raise a glass of CC or whatever and join with me in singing:

"God save The Queen 

and heaven bless,

The maple leaf forever!"

 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:40 PM

Flintlock76

Well if we're all riding the "bar car" let's not forget to wave at the people trackside.

Why?  Well, as Mike Yuhas, "Trains" magazine advertising sales rep once put it...

"I grew up along the Long Island Railroad, and always waved at the trains, but nobody every waved back.  Except the people in the bar car, they ALWAYS waved back!"

Two stories.

Along the line of our daily short (1.5 hour) trips, we pass a small settlement that once hosted a large lumbering complex.  Aside from a few camps and a communications tower, there's not much there any more.  It's known as "Minnehaha."

There's a crossing at Minne that is actually just a driveway to reach what was, at one time, a hotel.  Even as houses go, it's not all that large.

All summer, the elderly owner is there, and almost without fail, is out to wave to the train.  I always try to wave "just in case" he's out there, and certainly encourage the passengers to do the same.

Second, my mother's family often visited my grandfather's brother's home in Big Moose, NY.  The old NYC Adirondack Division runs through Big Moose and back in the day was fairly busy.  

My late aunt Eleanor, youngest of the siblings, would occasionally be trackside  when the trains came through.  The crews all waved to the cute little girl, but she never waved back.

When questioned why she didn't wave to the crews, she replied, "I don't know them..."

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 4:34 PM

Dude-- The video you posted on sour grapes is pretty amazing. Nice to see the Caboose too! I really miss them. 

Think the same thing about Overmod and thought to myself many times 'does this guy know everything'. Can he dice onions with his thoughts? Does he have to wear a dimmer switch because he's so bright? 

We should confer upon him as being inducted into the C.A.S.O. the 'Order of the Fontaine'.... has to do a doughnut run first though.

Flintlock/Firelock should be awarded 'Keeper of the Roundhouse and Fire'. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:12 PM

Oh shucks Vince, now I'm blushing!  Embarrassed

Oh, and great man that he his Overmod doesn't know everything.  He knows almost everything!  Bow

Now Mike, the banished "Wanswheel," he knows everything!  Or at least where to find everything.

Which is why his exile infuriates us so much!  Bang Head  Angry  Super Angry  Lightning 

Wayne

PS:  While we're talkin' Canadian, anyone know where I can find Schenley's OFC here in the US?  That fine whiskey that's "Only For Catholics,"  as Lady Firestorm's father used to say.

PPS: Allow me to nominate David Klepper for Professor Emeritus Railroadianus and Transit Gloria Mundi!

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:05 PM

Flintlock76

Oh shucks Vince, now I'm blushing!  Embarrassed

Oh, and great man that he his Overmod doesn't know everything.  He knows almost everything!  Bow

Now Mike, the banished "Wanswheel," he knows everything!  Or at least where to find everything.

Which is why his exile infuriates us so much!  Bang Head  Angry  Super Angry  Lightning 

Wayne

PS:  While we're talkin' Canadian, anyone know where I can find Schenley's OFC here in the US?  That fine whiskey that's "Only For Catholics,"  as Lady Firestorm's father used to say.

PPS: Allow me to nominate David Klepper for Professor Emeritus Railroadianus and Transit Gloria Mundi!

Note: Wayne [Flintlock76]  I'd like an 8x10 copy of that photo of ya' blushing....Especially, if it was under a cover, with the EGA! Smile, Wink & GrinWhistling

 As to Overmod. I somehow feel we have crossed paths,in another place ?? 

I have to agree with you avout our 'banished' compadre... "wanswheel"  His 'exit' was a sore point for a lot of posters here. That was a poor way to handle a situation, IMHO. My 2 Cents

As to the Canadian 'product'; when I was imbibing, there was not anything any better...'cept maybe a really old, Jack Black, and branch water. [A topic for another time, and place]Whistling

My first exposure to Canadian hospitality was in the summer of '56 and'57; the occasion was a trip to visit a school frind of my Dad's; their island cabin on L Huron. In '57 we drove up to Pointe au Baril and boated out to the Ojibway Hotel and then to their place.   The next year we went up into Canada, and caught the Canadianne, and rode overnight to Point au Baril; on that wonderful train. Fell in love with all things Canada in those couple of months spent on those trips. 

Also agree with your PPS on Dave Klepper Bow I wish him Health and Happiness; in his adopted land.

 

 

 


 

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, July 24, 2019 7:58 AM

Flintlock76
Oh, and great man that he his Overmod doesn't know everything.  He knows almost everything!

Compared to Mike, I know very little, I think.  (And can often find comparatively little when it comes to researching the vast majority of what I don't know...)

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Posted by MarknLisa on Wednesday, July 24, 2019 5:13 PM
University of Nebraska, Lincoln. Able Hall. c. Autumn 1978. My room mate & I were playing Frisbee in the lawn behind the dorm on the east side of the building. The Rock Island Line ran right through the back lawn of Able Hall. A train came rumbling past us, gradually slowed and stopped with the caboose right next to us. There was a 'whoosh' as the brakes set and I could see a few blocks down that the power up ahead was switching some empty center beams out of a Payless Cashways lumber yard. Then the brakeman stepped out on the rear platform of the caboose and hollered 'hey guys, over here!' and held out his hand. We included him in our Frisbee game for 15-20 minutes until his radio crackled. He replied into the radio, told us it was time to go and went back inside. In a few moments the CRI&P pulled away and the caboose disappeared around the next bend.
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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, July 26, 2019 3:40 PM

Big Boy passed through town outside my balcony at 1:55pm today.  Very impressive!! Worthy of a shot of Ardbeg (an Islay single malt).

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, July 26, 2019 4:36 PM

charlie hebdo

Big Boy passed through town outside my balcony at 1:55pm today.  Very impressive!! Worthy of a shot of Ardbeg (an Islay single malt).

 

Cool!  I'll bet you could have sold tickets!  $$$$!

A little extra spending money never hurts!

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, July 26, 2019 5:10 PM

Flintlock76

 

 
charlie hebdo

Big Boy passed through town outside my balcony at 1:55pm today.  Very impressive!! Worthy of a shot of Ardbeg (an Islay single malt).

 

 

 

Cool!  I'll bet you could have sold tickets!  $$$$!

A little extra spending money never hurts!

 

I only wish it were easy to post a video on this antiquated site.  The Ardbeg was perfect.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, July 26, 2019 9:33 PM

     In the 70's I lived in a rural-ish area about a half mile away from the Milwaukee Road line in western South Dakota. (A half mile south of Murphy Siding in fact.) I liked watching trains go by. We always had time to study the locomotives and the cars because the trains went fairly slow.

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:03 AM

charlie hebdo
I only wish it were easy to post a video on this antiquated site.

It's a space issue - and storage does cost money.  By not hosting the dozens of videos we all know would be posted ("Here's my video of locomotive 1234 passing Podunk" - which is posted right after a dozen other points of view of the same exact thing), as well as myriad images, well, they're saving money.  

We're kind of lucky to have these fora, sponsored by Kalmbach and without the plethora of advertising (I know there is some) you get on other such sites.

That said, you can post a link in most cases.  The file just has to be posted elsewhere on the 'Net.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:27 AM

tree68
 
charlie hebdo
I only wish it were easy to post a video on this antiquated site. 

It's a space issue - and storage does cost money.  By not hosting the dozens of videos we all know would be posted ("Here's my video of locomotive 1234 passing Podunk" - which is posted right after a dozen other points of view of the same exact thing), as well as myriad images, well, they're saving money.  

We're kind of lucky to have these fora, sponsored by Kalmbach and without the plethora of advertising (I know there is some) you get on other such sites.

That said, you can post a link in most cases.  The file just has to be posted elsewhere on the 'Net.

It is easy enough to post the video's to YouTube and then crosslink the YouTube video to this site.

What I find beyond belief - all the Kalmbach forums are not running the same software.  This forum does not have spell check like all the forums under 'Trains Magazine' heading.  The forum under the 'Classic Trains' heading does have spell check.  Beyond these two headings, I don't go into the other headings enough to know how those forums operate.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:23 AM

BaltACD

 

 
tree68
 
charlie hebdo
I only wish it were easy to post a video on this antiquated site. 

It's a space issue - and storage does cost money.  By not hosting the dozens of videos we all know would be posted ("Here's my video of locomotive 1234 passing Podunk" - which is posted right after a dozen other points of view of the same exact thing), as well as myriad images, well, they're saving money.  

We're kind of lucky to have these fora, sponsored by Kalmbach and without the plethora of advertising (I know there is some) you get on other such sites.

That said, you can post a link in most cases.  The file just has to be posted elsewhere on the 'Net.

 

It is easy enough to post the video's to YouTube and then crosslink the YouTube video to this site.

What I find beyond belief - all the Kalmbach forums are not running the same software.  This forum does not have spell check like all the forums under 'Trains Magazine' heading.  The forum under the 'Classic Trains' heading does have spell check.  Beyond these two headings, I don't go into the other headings enough to know how those forums operate.

 

That is really a head scratcher. 

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:17 AM

As I recall the Trains Magazine forum did have spell check--and I appreciated it. DO yu recall posts soon after it was dropped, bewailing the absence of spell czech?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:21 AM

Deggesty

As I recall the Trains Magazine forum did have spell check--and I appreciated it. DO yu recall posts soon after it was dropped, bewailing the absence of spell czech?

 

   Yes.

   Another quirk:  Quick Reply still has it, so if you don't need to do any formatting like separate paragraphs, you can use it and still have spell check.

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Posted by steve14 on Saturday, July 27, 2019 5:15 PM

A memory from when I worked for CP

Along the Mississippi just below Marquette, IA, hirailing railroad west (upstream) towards La Crescent. It is early spring and the ice is not completely out. At the open areas eagles gather to fish.
 
I check our track and time to see how long we have and then stop to admire. Looking through the bare trees between the track and the river we can see perhaps 15 or 20 white crowns. Some are on the ice, others in the trees on both sides of the river. One is picking over a recent catch and others eye him jealously. One or two move closer to try and take the prize. 
 
The air is still and the temperature is a little above freezing. I hear the horn of the eastbound coming into Marquette. We have to get going to get into town and clear for him.
 
I look forward to coming back again in the fall for a wild day of color.
 
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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, July 27, 2019 5:45 PM

steve14
A memory from when I worked for CP
Along the Mississippi just below Marquette, IA, hirailing railroad west (upstream) towards La Crescent. It is early spring and the ice is not completely out. At the open areas eagles gather to fish.
 
I check our track and time to see how long we have and then stop to admire. Looking through the bare trees between the track and the river we can see perhaps 15 or 20 white crowns. Some are on the ice, others in the trees on both sides of the river. One is picking over a recent catch and others eye him jealously. One or two move closer to try and take the prize. 
 
The air is still and the temperature is a little above freezing. I hear the horn of the eastbound coming into Marquette. We have to get going to get into town and clear for him.
 
I look forward to coming back again in the fall for a wild day of color.
 
The amazing thing is that I actually get paid to do this.

Sounds like the days of MofW operating on a 'Track Car Lineup' and protecting yourselves against the listed trains, rather than todays MofW Track Authority that give you 'possession' of the track within the designated limits.

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Posted by zardoz on Sunday, July 28, 2019 10:38 AM

Deggesty

As I recall the Trains Magazine forum did have spell check--and I appreciated it. DO yu recall posts soon after it was dropped, bewailing the absence of spell czech?

 


I have a spelling checker,
It came with my pee sea.
It plane lee marks four my revue
Miss steaks aye can knot sea.

Eye ran this poem threw it,
Your sure reel glad two no.
Its vary polished in it's weigh.
My checker tolled me sew.

A checker is a bless sing,
It freeze yew lodes of thyme.
It helps me right awl stiles two reed,
And aides me when eye rime.

Each frays come posed up on my screen
Eye trussed too bee a joule.
The checker pours o'er every word
To cheque sum spelling rule.

Bee fore a veiling checker's
Hour spelling mite decline,
And if we're lacks oar have a laps,
We wood bee maid too wine.

Butt now bee cause my spelling
Is checked with such grate flare,
Their are know fault's with in my cite,
Of nun eye am a wear.

Now spelling does knot phase me,
It does knot bring a tier.
My pay purrs awl due glad den
With wrapped word's fare as hear.

To rite with care is quite a feet
Of witch won should bee proud,
And wee mussed dew the best wee can,
Sew flaw's are knot aloud.

Sow ewe can sea why aye dew prays
Such soft wear four pea seas,
And why eye brake in two averse
Buy righting want too pleas.

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, July 28, 2019 2:52 PM

Zardoz, that is beautiful; your use of homophones is delightful!

As I recall, back in grammar school we were warned of only a few homophones---and you have shown us many, many more!

 

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Posted by steve14 on Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:17 PM

Just a simple track and time order giving authority between 2 points with an expiration time. In this case probably from Guttenberg (about MP 78) to McGregor (about MP 96, just short of Marquette to allow the train room to work the Wye) and time to be clear. 

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