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UP on ground and overturned in Marana AZ
Posted by tdmidget on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 6:09 PM

About 3:15 PM a UP intermodal derailed and per reports "numerous cars are overturned near Twin Peaks road. It happened in the worst monsoon storm I have experienced with approx 5 inches of rain in about an hour.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:21 PM

Posts on FB from friends in the Phoenix area included video showing some pretty significant winds, which begat dust storms.  

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Posted by Euclid on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:29 PM

Here is coverage with many photos.  It says that the train was derailed by heavy rain.  At one point water was over the rails.

https://tucson.com/news/local/monsoon-rains-cause-massive-train-derailment-at-i--in/article_d996fbde-8491-11e8-af51-6b2a1096265c.html#8

 

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Posted by diningcar on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:47 PM

Lots of UPS cargo scattered. Substantial law enforcement people assisting with security and traffic management.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:48 PM

There appear to be several dry washes there.  With that much rain, they can fill up in a hurry.

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 2:22 PM

diningcar
Lots of UPS cargo scattered. Substantial law enforcement people assisting with security and traffic management.

Glad I am not expecting any thing UPS from the West Coast.

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 2:57 PM

Sent in the required box tops and postage to Kellogg's for a nifty looking, I think plastic?, hook and ladder fire truck in the late '50's ...I'm still waiting. 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 5:21 PM

We can look forward on here to:

1. Denouncing poor media coverage, aka, shoot the messenger.

2. Fabrication of many other possible causes.

3. Denial that high water could cause such an event.

4. Exoneration of engineers and the railroad for failure to anticipate problems and exercise caution.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 5:40 PM

Euclid

Here is coverage with many photos.  It says that the train was derailed by heavy rain.  At one point water was over the rails.

https://tucson.com/news/local/monsoon-rains-cause-massive-train-derailment-at-i--in/article_d996fbde-8491-11e8-af51-6b2a1096265c.html#8

 

 

To be fair, they said there had been water running over the tracks a little while before the video was filmed. They didn't say that the train had driven on rils that were under water.

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Posted by tdmidget on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:54 PM

This was the heaviest rain I have ever seen and I'm from the Southeast where heavy rain is a given. Rain here is typically very local. The nearest gage is about 4 miles away and showed 3". I have a Koi pond which overflowed with 5 " increase. They could not have had much if any warning since the whole thing lasted no more than an hour and a half.  We have seen water where we have never seen it before, including the wreck site. The pace of real estate development here is ridiculous and no provision made for the increased run off. Been through my share of hurricanes and never ssaw such rain.

 

 

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Posted by zardoz on Thursday, July 12, 2018 2:18 PM

Euclid

Here is coverage with many photos.  It says that the train was derailed by heavy rain.  At one point water was over the rails.

https://tucson.com/news/local/monsoon-rains-cause-massive-train-derailment-at-i--in/article_d996fbde-8491-11e8-af51-6b2a1096265c.html#8

 

 

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Posted by caldreamer on Thursday, July 12, 2018 2:27 PM

I have an ad blocker that is turned on and it works fine for me.  Which one are you using and under what operating system?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:37 AM

     I saw an online article that said local police were investigating some of the packages that were ripped open in the derailment that contained drugs.

     Imagine that you are trying to explain to the mob why your shipment of illegal drugs has gone missing.Surprise I wonder if the shipper that to insure the packages?Mischief

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