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Bring in Ed Ellis of Iowa Pacific to replace Don Phillips

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, June 24, 2018 10:17 PM

From what I have been told, Iowa Pacific's cars just looked old. Not classy old, but just old and kind of run-down.  Even if they were super clean, they still didn't age well.  One coach had fluorescent lighting which alone makes anything look dated. The individual tubes all had different color temperatures (some due to age, some due to just being a different color temperature).  It looked terrible. If you're selling a premium product - you have to make it premium. 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, June 25, 2018 2:06 AM

charlie hebdo

From what I have been told, Iowa Pacific's cars just looked old. Not classy old, but just old and kind of run-down.  Even if they were super clean, they still didn't age well.  One coach had fluorescent lighting which alone makes anything look dated. The individual tubes all had different color temperatures (some due to age, some due to just being a different color temperature).  It looked terrible. If you're selling a premium product - you have to make it premium. 

Additionally, he still has the half completed Milwaukee Road Sleeper, Skytop which I hope he finds a good home for or someone with deep pockets that can finish the restoration.   Hopefully he didn't put the ugly IC colors on that car.  

I agree though his fleet was ratty in some respects and there is still a small pool of low mileage non-Amtrak cars to update in various parts of the country.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Monday, June 25, 2018 9:18 AM

YES, Cotton Belt, and my mother,(retired teacher), would be disappointed TOO!

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:12 PM

Railway labor and Amtrak legal fought hard against the the INDOT and  Iowa Pacific replacing a Amtrak Union Crew with a non union Iowa Pacific Crew....a couple of horseheads and few months later the state of Indiana gave in after so much pressure

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