and despite Progressive Railroadings office being at Progressive Railroading 2100 W. Florist Milwaukee, WI 53209 and Trains being a few miles up the road in Waukesha WI Pat said that he almost never talks to Jim Wrinn Editor of Trains except at conventions. Anybody here want to invite both these guys for a beer the next time you are in Beer Town aka Milwaukee ?
There isn't any reason. Progressive Railroading is a professionally-oriented magazine aimed at railroad management and Trains is primarily oriented to the hobbyist.
Yes Trains now has Ads for Plasser Track Grooming Equipment that cost 100,000.00 or more. What Hobbyist can afford that? Unless you have a huge ranch out west with a private RR in your back yard. Seems to be overlap with Trade Press Media Group and Railway Age.
CandOforprogress2 Yes Trains now has Ads for Plasser Track Grooming Equipment that cost 100,000.00 or more. What Hobbyist can afford that? Unless you have a huge ranch out west with a private RR in your back yard. Seems to be overlap with Trade Press Media Group and Railway Age.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
CandOforprogress2Trains being a few miles up the road in Waukesha WI
Florist is the North side of Milwaukee in Milwaukee County, Waukesha is probably a good 20 miles away in Waukesha County. The two counties are next to each other but to drive from one address to the other during a non-peak time will take you at least 40 min at freeway speeds. So it is more than just a few miles up the road.
Now let me explain how advertising works for niche publications or websites. An advertiser like Plasser approaches an ad distributor who offers x amount of readership among a potential market. Then distributes the ad to the appropriate publications. Plasser has no account with Trains Magazine directly, they get their ad in Trains via a distributor. Likewise a lot of the ads you see on the Internet on say a website like www.weather.com are there via an ad distributor. Weather.com and Trains are way to small to have a full fledged Ad sales team so they make use of marketing companies for most of their ads.
You can launch your own website and own magazine and do the same thing. You do not really need an Ad salesforce......the marketers will come to you because the more viewership you offer them, the higher price they can charge their advertisers.
To your original question. Trains is viewed by both railroaders and non-railroaders, there is no real measurement of what % makes up the subscriber base because with total subscribers under 100k..........nobody really cares. It is a drop in the bucket as far as advertisers are concerned money wise to ad Trains Magazine as an advertising outlet. Now if Trains had a subscriber base of say 10 million, then yes folks would care what % were railroaders or railroad related as that would be a significant spend for advertising.
Murphy SidingHave you taken the time to forward to the folks at Trains Magazine your ideas about how they should run their business?
I think they are aware, and to paraphrase that great management consultant of sorts J. Tiberius, his objection has been noted and logged.
"I called Pat Foran of Progressive Railroading..."
Gee, I hope you called him something nice!
Just kiddin', love 'ya bro!
Overmod Murphy Siding Have you taken the time to forward to the folks at Trains Magazine your ideas about how they should run their business? I think they are aware, and to paraphrase that great management consultant of sorts J. Tiberius, his objection has been noted and logged.
Murphy Siding Have you taken the time to forward to the folks at Trains Magazine your ideas about how they should run their business?
I liked it better when Scotty took command of the "Enterprise." Scotty didn't take any crap from anybody!
Like when he said to Garth (posing as Kirk) "Queen to Queen's Level 3" and pretty much shut down the conversation because Garth didn't know the proper response.
Or like when Kirk, Spock, and Dr. McCoy were trapped on the "Roman" planet and Scotty needed to get the Consul's attention, doing it with an induced planetary power failure.
"The 'Prime Directive' says I can't interfere with them, but it doesn't say I can't frighten them!"
Good ol' Scotty! Scotty was the man!
J Tiberius is also a physicist who specializes in explosions in deep space see-
J. Tiberius Morán-López's
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/2047863504_J_Tiberius_Moran-Lopez
Firelock76 "I called Pat Foran of Progressive Railroading..." Gee, I hope you called him something nice! Just kiddin', love 'ya bro!
I always look at it this way: I don't care what you call me, just so you call me for dinner.
Your on! Where You at? PM me.
CandOforprogress2 Your on! Where You at? PM me.
Quite the freeloader.
No this would be on my dime.provided its in a dining car diner
ChuckCobleighI always look at it this way: I don't care what you call me, just so you call me for dinner.
It's better semantically following the original: 'just so you don't call me late for dinner'. But the fun thing is the response, where C&O says he's up for calling Chuck for dinner, even offers to name the place where he'll be providing him dinner, and CSSHegewisch accuses him unfairly of freeloading!
Do what C&O didn't, and read the sentences to see what they actually said. (I confess I am no fan of hobo cuisine, but hey! I appreciate the hospitality thought, even if it turns out to be somewhat circumstantial...)
Overmod It's better semantically as the original: 'just so you don't call me late for dinner'.
It's better semantically as the original: 'just so you don't call me late for dinner'.
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/call_me_anything_but_dont_call_me_late_for_dinner
Fixed.
Like I hope C&O will have dinner, when our hungry compatriots call him.
Marine Reservists used to have a snappy come-back to the barbed comments about them from the Regulars...
"Yeah, call us anything you want to, but call us at home! Hee, hee, hee..."
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