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Transmashholding Export Stategy
Posted by MarknLisa on Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:11 PM

Looks like Russia's Transmashholing is about to engage in some more agressive export marketing.  http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/europe/former-vossloh-chairman-joins-transmashholding.html

Does anybody out there have any experience with their equipment? Is it any good? Do western locomotive & rolling stock manufacturers have much to fear for their market share?  Transmashholding plays in both the freight and passenger markets.  

https://tmholding.ru/en/products/

 

 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:54 PM

Couldn't get the Transmasholding link to work, but...

If the Russian made equipment is basic, simple, rugged and reliable and priced right they may very well find a market in the less well-developed countries where sophisticated equipment can't be maintained as well as it should be.

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Posted by Buslist on Saturday, July 15, 2017 3:32 AM

Firelock76

Couldn't get the Transmasholding link to work, but...

If the Russian made equipment is basic, simple, rugged and reliable and priced right they may very well find a market in the less well-developed countries where sophisticated equipment can't be maintained as well as it should be.

 

Russian manufactured components are currently being sold into the North American market (generally by a North American supplier). Several Russian facilities are AAR certified.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, July 15, 2017 8:12 AM

Wouldn't be the first time.  Remember "Russian Iron,"  the boiler jacketing material popular for steam engines in the 19th and early 20th centuries?  The Russians had a monopoly on the stuff, only they knew how it was made and wisely kept it secret.

Even today no-one knows just how it was made.

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Posted by RME on Saturday, July 15, 2017 2:43 PM

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Even today no-one knows just how it was made.

As with Damascus steel, samurai blades, Chinese porcelain and no few other things ... that's not so.  There is a good thread on Russia iron and its 'domestic equivalent' on RyPN that covers, among other things, how it's made and why it has the colors it does.

It does have to be said that it is NOT particularly intuitive to make 'books' of thin planished iron that way ... or that the resulting surface would be corrosion-resistant.  As fun to figure out as the secret recipes for armor and tool steels, or the right methods for making complex frame castings and engine beds a la GSC.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, July 15, 2017 4:09 PM

Can you tell me how to find that thread on Russia Iron that's on RyPN?  I'd like to see what it has to say versus all the other things I've read about it.

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Posted by RME on Saturday, July 15, 2017 6:33 PM

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Can you tell me how to find that thread on Russia Iron that's on RyPN?

Just type "Russia iron" into the RyPN search box at upper left of the Interchange window.  That pulls up references to the actual Russia iron threads as well as the WW&F Rwy. grant on the American 'planished iron' substitute.

You can PM a couple of the principals for more specific information than what was posted in the threads.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, July 15, 2017 6:41 PM

Thank you!  I'll read that item with interest.

By the way, is anyone besides me looking at the heading of this thread and thinking "Trainsmash"  intead of "Transmash?"

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Posted by RME on Saturday, July 15, 2017 7:09 PM

Firelock76
By the way, is anyone besides me looking at the heading of this thread and thinking "Trainsmash" intead of "Transmash?"

You know, I know just enough Russian that the '-smash' never occurred to me.  Bet it's a common pun on some of the boards in Britain or Aus/NZ though...

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, July 16, 2017 3:05 PM

RME, I just read that RyPN thread on Russia Iron, and very interesting it was.  I can see why it's not made anymore, just too labor intensive, just like Damascus steel or samurai swords.

A good coat of high-quality modern paint serves just as well to prevent corrosion, if not better.

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