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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, April 17, 2017 10:12 PM

MC please send some of those semi-competent  CO DOT persons to Atlanta.  They can certaintly instruct our DOT how to be more competent.  Appears that an alternate route for the I-85 collaspe had just had a debri fire under a bridge on US-23.  Bridge condition unknown but will remain closed until inspected. 

Un believable.  17 days and state has not cleared any flamable debri from under bridges especially alternate routes around Atlanta.  

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:01 AM

Forgot to mention this little gem from a few days ago ....

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/live-large-fire-under-rail-trestle-/430947794

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:32 AM
You guys in Atlanta must have upset the gods or space aliens or something. It's like a curse. Really bad place to drive through is now almost impossible. Got family there, fireman and an ER nurse, they are going nuts trying to get around.
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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:16 AM

blue streak 1

MC please send some of those semi-competent  CO DOT persons to Atlanta.  They can certaintly instruct our DOT how to be more competent.  Appears that an alternate route for the I-85 collaspe had just had a debri fire under a bridge on US-23.  Bridge condition unknown but will remain closed until inspected. 

Un believable.  17 days and state has not cleared any flamable debri from under bridges especially alternate routes around Atlanta.  

 

Sorry, CDOT is fresh out of Semi-Competent.

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Posted by diningcar on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:56 AM

Perhaps some semi A***ed from KDOT can come.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:54 AM

mudchicken
Sorry, CDOT is fresh out of Semi-Competent.

MC, You think it's bad there, come to Michigan. Our highways, byways and interstates suck. I've hit three tires to pothole in two years, each one costing me a new tire. Getting tired of that and ready to sue the local road commission or MDOT for incurred expenses.

Having been in the Loveland/Fort Collins area in '15 I can say your roads are much better maintained than ours.

I needed a new mouse for the computer. It cost over $300.00 including the tire that had less than 8,000 miles on it and was destroyed by a pot hole on the way to buy it.

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:02 PM

The roads in CO are filled with pot ... no holes there. :)

Just heard on the radio they granted bail to the man who started the I-85 fire .. he may have been safer in jail.

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:37 PM

MARTA, with some help from GRTA Xpress and Gwinnett County Transit continue to keep Atlanta moving.  

Should be good talking points when MARTA expansion gets discussed

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Posted by 7j43k on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:45 PM

Norm48327
 

MC, You think it's bad there, come to Michigan. Our highways, byways and interstates suck. 

 

I think it's a tradition.  

In the early '60's, as soon as we crossed from Ohio into Michigan, the road got worse than any road I'd seen in years.  Well, not counting gravel roads and mud tracks and the like.  I mean real roads.

 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:49 PM

7j43k
...gravel roads...

The folks in the township where I used to live want gravel roads.  Between slowing drivers down and the number of folks who have horses, I suspect they'll stay gravel for the foreseeable future.

It's funny - you'll be driving down one of those gravel roads and pass a paved side street leading into a development of very expensive houses...

Oddly, I live in a pretty rural area, especially when compared to where I lived in MI, and gravel roads are rare here, mostly confined to camp and cottage roads.  I can't think of a single dirt/gravel public road in my FD's first due district.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:14 AM

Never Fear, The Highway Bubba's from KDOT are sending an Emergency Highway Repair Crew to Hotlanta! Whistling

Image result for Photo/Truck with roll of duct tape on it?

 

 


 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:19 AM

I grew up in an outlying neighborhood of Chicago in the 1950's-1960's and our street was a bit better than gravel.  No curbs and a layer of asphalt covering about two-thirds of the roadway.  It was reasonably smooth but had a fair amount of patches.

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Posted by SALfan on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:40 PM

rdamon

We did have this little incident this morning ...

Now we have a Braves game and a thunderstorm ... :)

 

I next we will have Locusts!!

 

If it starts raining frogs, head for the hills.

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, April 21, 2017 12:10 PM

Concrete being pumped onto the first span ...

https://app.oxblue.com/open/GADOT/I85BridgeRebuild

 

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, May 2, 2017 8:34 AM

It was announced yesterday that they are pouring the deck on the last two spans and that they are looking at a May 25th opening day.

Amazing work in 4.5 weeks.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Tuesday, May 2, 2017 11:07 AM

Amazing indeed. No grass growing under that project. They are hustling right along.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 2, 2017 11:56 AM

rdamon
Amazing work in 4.5 weeks.

Makes one wonder why such projects often seem to take 4.5 years...

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 2, 2017 12:46 PM

tree68
rdamon

Makes one wonder why such projects often seem to take 4.5 years...

Normally one doesn't have to get enviornmental impact surveys and reports to perform replacement projects - now if they were going to add 4 to 6 lanes to the existing structure, that would be 4 to 5 years to get those reports and then have the public hearings about the reports.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Tuesday, May 2, 2017 3:38 PM

BaltACD
Normally one doesn't have to get enviornmental impact surveys and reports to perform replacement projects - now if they were going to add 4 to 6 lanes to the existing structure, that would be 4 to 5 years to get those reports and then have the public hearings about the reports. Add Quote to your Post

Balt,

You forgot to include the payoffs to corrupt politicians. Wink

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:24 PM

Norm48327
BaltACD

Balt,

You forgot to include the payoffs to corrupt politicians. Wink

Those get paid no matter how involved or simple the permitting process it.

The US has the best form of government money can buy.  It is bought and sold every day at every level of government.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:49 PM

BaltACD
Those get paid no matter how involved or simple the permitting process it. The US has the best form of government money can buy. It is bought and sold every day at every level of government

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:58 AM

Latest from GA DOT.  I-85 will be opened May 15th.  Contractor has a $3.0M bonus if complete by then.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:11 AM

blue streak 1

Latest from GA DOT.  I-85 will be opened May 15th.  Contractor has a $3.0M bonus if complete by then.

I think I opined that the biggest hold-up would be concrete curing time.  I believe someone posted that they were using a faster curing concrete, so this sounds reasonable.

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Posted by diningcar on Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM

Similar to the Los Angeles and bay area freeway reconstruction after the earthquakes. Amazing what can be done when the need is significant; and when compared to the delays that can be imposed when certain groups or bureaucrats try to justify whatever their interests may be.

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Posted by rdamon on Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:40 AM
Like in LA after Northridge, I am sure that there will be the celebratory press conference composed  of all the people that helped by sitting on their hands.
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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, May 14, 2017 3:59 AM

Southbound lane opened Friday sometime. Northbound opened Friday 1900.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:13 AM

diningcar

Similar to the Los Angeles and bay area freeway reconstruction after the earthquakes. Amazing what can be done when the need is significant; and when compared to the delays that can be imposed when certain groups or bureaucrats try to justify whatever their interests may be.

 

Construction projects in America have been 'throttled' for years, by the Bureaucracies at all levels.

    Generally, new construction can take years to get accomplished, not to mention the way regulators, and their demands, play escaladio with the costs.  Concrete technology is amazing; Curing time can be 'adjusted' by addition of ice, and/or chemicals to achieve cured strengths, as needed to achieve the use needed. Bang Head

 

 


 

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