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News Wire: Congressional committee wants FRA notice of safety audits

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:09 AM

WASHINGTON — The House Transportation Committee on Wednesday approved a bill that obligates the Federal Railroad Administration to notify Congress when it begins or completes a comprehensive safety audit of an intercity passenger or commuter ra...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/03/29-fra-safety-audit

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:48 AM

To me - this highlights that Congress has not been doing their job in the past and want the FRA to do it for them in the future.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:00 AM

FRA's prime function is to correct deficiencies, safety and otherwise, in the railroad environment. Part of that effort is built on trust between the railroads, employees and the FRA. Injecting a bunch of clowns with a political agenda into an apolitical system is looking for trouble and a certain step backwards.

No system is perfect, and the FRA has issues, but allowing certain grandstanders to impede the process with their unimformed, belicose statements (like certain forum pests) creates more problems and obscures the clear path to some solutions. 

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:32 PM

Probably mostly for more opportunities for press conferences/ releases/ 30-sec. sound bites, etc.  

For some - apparently the NJ Representative quoted in the article - it'd be a 'heads-up' so they know what's going on in their districts.  Evidently there'd been an ongoing safety audit at NJT for a while, and he didn't know about it - not a good thing for any manager to have happen.  And hard to see how he could have known, unless he asked FRA every day/ week/ month for "What's going on in my district ?" - which is another way, granted, but also burdensome for all involved.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:26 PM

And perhaps even the railroads involved would prefer to keep it between them and the FRA, especially if the issues are relatively minor and are being remedied immediately.  

Such pubilicity would certainly give any anti-rail activists plenty of fodder to push their agenda.  "Zomygosh!  ABC railroad carries crude oil and Joe Switchman wasn't wearing the proper safety gear!  The horrors!"

NYS used to do audits of fire districts (the districts how have to hire a CPA).  The results were published in the newspaper, leading to stories that highlighted minor issues (the item came to $5,001, so should have gone out to bid) that served only to make the districts look bad.

If the FRA findings are significant, then maybe there should be publicity (including notifying Congress), but if it's minor, one-time, fixed-on-the-spot stuff, nah.

 

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:54 PM

I don't know the definition of a safety audit - I anticipate it's for large, systemic problems -  but if it could include the minor "one-of" matters, then amend the bill to exclude them, so only the more significant ones have to be notifiied.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:13 PM

Paul_D_North_Jr
I don't know the definition of a safety audit - I anticipate it's for large, systemic problems -  but if it could include the minor "one-of" matters, then amend the bill to exclude them, so only the more significant ones have to be notifiied.

- PDN.  

When political bodies get ahold of safety audit type data their first inclination is to view every 'transgression' as akin to Capital Murder kidnapping and rape combined when the transgression is really littering with one gum wrapper. 

Politics is for grandstanding - not working out problems.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:14 PM

The media has long played to emotions. The "if it bleeds, it leads" theory is their mantra. Facts be damned, just make it look bad so the public thinks it's a major story even though it's not. Wheel falls off rail, plane turns on wrong taxiway, whatever they can use to sell their product is published. Accuracy is not important; just scare the sheep. Stories of minor aviation incidents are blown out of proportion for such purposes and railroad incidents run a close second. The media lost all credibility many moons ago. Even the local weekly is suspect.

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Posted by greyhounds on Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:34 PM

Norm48327

The media has long played to emotions. The "if it bleeds, it leads" theory is their mantra. Facts be damned, just make it look bad so the public thinks it's a major story even though it's not. Wheel falls off rail, plane turns on wrong taxiway, whatever they can use to sell their product is published. Accuracy is not important; just scare the sheep. Stories of minor aviation incidents are blown out of proportion for such purposes and railroad incidents run a close second. The media lost all credibility many moons ago. Even the local weekly is suspect.

 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:43 PM

 

 

mudchicken

FRA's prime function is to correct deficiencies, safety and otherwise, in the railroad environment. Part of that effort is built on trust between the railroads, employees and the FRA." Injecting a bunch of clowns with a political agenda into an apolitical system is looking for trouble and a certain step backwards."

No system is perfect, and the FRA has issues, but allowing certain grandstanders to impede the process with their unimformed, belicose statements (like certain forum pests) creates more problems and obscures the clear path to some solutions. 

 

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      Do not forget for one moment... It was the political 'hyper-ventilating', and knee-jerk political "need to do something"  after the  September 2008 UPRR/Metrolink collision at Chatsworth, Ca. and  aftermath that created the 'enviornment' that caused the Political firestorm that brought the rush to install PTC, nationwide, and let the politicians crow that they had really solved THAT problem, My 2 Cents 

link @  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chatsworth_train_collision

 

 


 

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:05 PM

greyhounds

There's no way for the public to tell the difference.

A bigger problem is that many don't even try, they just blindly believe whatever the TV says.  No follow-up at all.

But as if that weren't enough, some then feel the need take to Twitter to share with the entire world what they just "learned"...

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