Amtrak Train - Rhinecliff NY - Throws Snow Over Waiting Passengers

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Amtrak Train - Rhinecliff NY - Throws Snow Over Waiting Passengers
Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, March 16, 2017 6:43 AM

This is one way to clear the track of accumulated snow:

http://abc7ny.com/travel/watch-amtrak-train-sends-wave-of-snow-onto-passengers/1802955/ 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4318908/Train-pulls-New-York-station-sending-snow-EVERYWHERE.html 

The Daily Mail's has 2 video clips, but other stuff in the article. 

Mischief The station guy was probably so proud of the excellent job he did of clearing off the platform, too . . .

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, March 16, 2017 7:05 AM

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The station guy was probably so proud of the excellent job he did of clearing off the platform, too . . .

Yep - probably just pushed it off the platform and onto the tracks.  I've done that on our platform, but not with that much snow, and we don't go by our platform at that kind of speed, either...

It was kind of funny seeing all the people shooting video of the oncoming train, until they discovered what was in store for them...

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:23 AM

The i-zombies looked up from their devices just long enough to figure out that 6-12" of snow over the rail might come in contact with the pilot or plow?

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Posted by ACY Tom on Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:36 AM

With a foot or more of snow covering the tracks, did they think it was all going to magically disappear in front of the engine? It had to go somewhere. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:42 AM

Doesn't look like 1st train after the storm - it looks like 1st train after a snow blower blew all the platform snow onto the tracks!  Train seemed to be making a normal station stop, passing the camera position at 12-15 MPH with about 1000 feet to stop cars at passenger location.  Away from the station the plow wasn't pushing snow.

         

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, March 16, 2017 7:14 PM

I noticed on the Daily Mail's site they actually called the storm, "Stella".  Something (using names for these winter storms) I've only heard the Weather Channel do regularly.

I myself don't use names for these storms.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:26 PM

"+1".  If the NWS doesn't name them, I don't see why these self-appointed priests of the weather have to or should.  "The blizzard of March 2017" is ID enough, and bettter for future reference.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:54 PM

jeffhergert
I noticed on the Daily Mail's site they actually called the storm, "Stella".  Something (using names for these winter storms) I've only heard the Weather Channel do regularly.

I myself don't use names for these storms.

Jeff

Especially when you don't have Marlon Brando with his Stella monologe.

         

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:57 PM

jeffhergert
I noticed on the Daily Mail's site they actually called the storm, "Stella".

The fact that we're up to "Stella" should tell you something.  

A lot of storms get named each winter.  Not many are significant.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:03 PM

jeffhergert

I noticed on the Daily Mail's site they actually called the storm, "Stella".  Something (using names for these winter storms) I've only heard the Weather Channel do regularly.

I myself don't use names for these storms.

Jeff 

 

The weather channel and the other doomsday weather dorks had to come up with something new to market their brand of OMG!!!!  weather reporting. Referring to each and every winter storm as "THE BLIZZARD OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!" had lost it's effect.   Dunce

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:09 PM

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jeffhergert

I noticed on the Daily Mail's site they actually called the storm, "Stella".  Something (using names for these winter storms) I've only heard the Weather Channel do regularly.

I myself don't use names for these storms.

Jeff

The weather channel and the other doomsday weather dorks had to come up with something new to market their brand of OMG!!!!  weather reporting. Referring to each and every winter storm as "THE BLIZZARD OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!" had lost it's effect.   Dunce

With 'The Weather Channel' aka TWC is owned by NBC/Comcast and their latest effort to develop panic with weather forecasts is say 80-100-150 or however many million people will be affected. 

The one thing with TWC - you don't want Jim Cantore and crew to come to your town for whatever weather event is forecast.

         

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Posted by erikem on Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:46 PM

jeffhergert

I noticed on the Daily Mail's site they actually called the storm, "Stella". 

Everytime I see the name "Stella", I can't help but think of Harry Mudd saying "Not 500!" in terror...

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Posted by zardoz on Friday, March 17, 2017 3:46 AM

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Posted by zardoz on Friday, March 17, 2017 3:48 AM

erikem

 

 
jeffhergert

I noticed on the Daily Mail's site they actually called the storm, "Stella". 

 

 

Everytime I see the name "Stella", I can't help but think of Harry Mudd saying "Not 500!" in terror...

 

Took me a few seconds to get the reference.....then it took a bit longer to clean up the hot chocolate I spilled. Truly one of the great scenes of the series.

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Posted by erikem on Friday, March 17, 2017 11:21 AM

First saw that scene 49.5 years ago - still brings me a smile when I think of it. Foud out a few years later that my maternal grandmother's name was Stella.

Harkorth (sp?) Fenton Mudd, you good for nothing, ing, ing...

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Posted by RME on Friday, March 17, 2017 11:54 AM

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Everytime I see the name "Stella", I can't help but think of Harry Mudd saying "Not 500!" in terror...

Good!  But Trek isn't the first thing that came to my mind ... and it even has a traction-related relevance to this forum!

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:53 PM

This situation is a darned if you do and darned if you don't.  The person(s) who were assigned to clear the platform were told not to get on the tracks.  The only way would have platform cleaners to get track and time and that would have been nearly impossible. 

This situation probably is very rare and how to handle it in the future will give Amtrak fits ? 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:27 PM

Aerial view shows platform is an island between the 2 tracks.  No place to push the snow off the platform and out of the way.  Probably could have used snowblower to clear platform.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, March 18, 2017 7:44 PM

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Aerial view shows platform is an island between the 2 tracks.  No place to push the snow off the platform and out of the way.  Probably could have used snowblower to clear platform.

Considering the sharp edge of snow at the edge of the platform it is no doubt that a snow blower was used.  If there is a will to keep the snow blower discharge off the track & platform it can be done.  There was no will to do so - just clear the platform the easiest way possible and be done with it.  Snow blower discharge position is adjustable - right, left, forward or back over the operator - clearing the platform and not piling everything on the track is no more difficult that routine switching problems train and engine crews encounter every day.

         

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Posted by MidlandMike on Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:06 PM

I suppose it's possible that a wind was blowing from the direction that they wanted to blow the snow, and it blew everything back on the track.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:16 PM

The storm that brought that snow was a very windy one - we saw 30MPH + even out here on the fringes.  That snow might have drifted across the tracks and the platform is very likely.  Whoever cleared the snow off the platform might have tried to blow it clear of the tracks on the other side, but that wouldn't help what was on the tracks.

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