Monday just before 3pm a 15 year old was killed while walking on CN tracks in Fenton, Mi. She was walking west, the train was west bound and couldn't stop. She looks to have had headphones on and never heard a thing. Very similar to the 17 year old killed about a mile west on the same tracks a few years ago. She was also wearing head phones and texting except she walked west and the CN freight was headed east. It sometimes seems that electronics are a curse.
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Flint news says a second one last night. A 63 year old man was hit near the US 23 underpass. Two in two days.
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BOB WITHORNMonday just before 3pm a 15 year old was killed while walking on CN tracks in Fenton, Mi. She was walking west, the train was west bound and couldn't stop. She looks to have had headphones on and never heard a thing. Very similar to the 17 year old killed about a mile west on the same tracks a few years ago. She was also wearing head phones and texting except she walked west and the CN freight was headed east. It sometimes seems that electronics are a curse. Bob
Walking and driving - electronic devices lead to distraction, a leading cause of death.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
BaltACDWalking and driving - electronic devices lead to distraction, a leading cause of death.
Although I hate to say this, it was an appearent suicide.
Norm48327 BaltACD Although I hate to say this, it was an appearent suicide.
BaltACD
While it very well may have been a suicide; however, electronic devices and ear buds create a separate world for those using them and they are totally out of touch with the real world that can easily and quickly kill them.
Norm48327 BaltACD Walking and driving - electronic devices lead to distraction, a leading cause of death. Although I hate to say this, it was an appearent suicide.
BaltACD Walking and driving - electronic devices lead to distraction, a leading cause of death.
On what facts do you base this, Norm? If she were looking at the train & showed awareness of it, then I might agree that your suicide theory has merit. Since she was looking away from the approaching train and paying attention to her electronic devices, it looks more like a simple, tragic lapse in judgment. Of course we'll probably never know.
Tom
ACYIf she were looking at the train & showed awareness of it, then I might agree that your suicide theory has merit.
I have zero info on this besides what I've read here.
But I would opine that there may have been other signs - notes, comments to friends & family, texts, etc, that may have signalled her intentions.
Unless the authorities let something like that out, you've got it - we'll never know. So it goes in the lapse of judgement category. Not the first, and likely far from the last.
So sad, too.
Edit: It was a high school freshman. From the Tri County Times:
After reviewing the video footage from the front of the train, Slater said investigators believe the train sounded its horn, but Lane did not attempt to get out of the way of the train. “We believe she had headphones on,” said Slater. “They were found nearby.” Slater said police have been told that the victim’s friends have been going out to the railroad tracks at the site of the accident. He is urging everyone to stay away from the tracks and right-of-way, which is owned by the railroad.
Slater said police have been told that the victim’s friends have been going out to the railroad tracks at the site of the accident. He is urging everyone to stay away from the tracks and right-of-way, which is owned by the railroad.
People are not necessarily aware of the role that their hearing plays in keeping them safe. So they put in ear buds and lose their entire range of hearing of what is around them except for the music. Being on a railroad track with no external hearing and looking in only one direction is a recipe for disaster.
The same thing can happen when walking on a double track with unimpaired hearing. A person sees and hears a train approaching them. At the same time a train is approaching behind them on the other track, but they don’t hear it because its sound is mingled with the sound of they train they see coming at them from ahead. So they step out of the way of the train approaching in front of them, and step into the path of the train approaching behind them.
Tori, rest in peace.
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http://www.edline.net/files/_WPATx_/325b75008be5290f3745a49013852ec4/Letter_to_FHS_Parents_re_Victoria_Lane.pdf
http://www.edline.net/files/_WQGtc_/fac0b29e9ff159433745a49013852ec4/Memo_to_FHS_Students_re_Funeral_Arr_for_Tori_Lane.pdf
I find that sometimes as a parent I have to tell my kids the obvious. And then I remind myself what is obvious to me, a mature adult, may not be obvious to a teen. Look both ways before crossing the street. Don't walk on railroad tracks.. my kids roll their eyes every time I say it but stories like this make me feel as if I can't say it often enough.
ACY Norm48327 BaltACD Walking and driving - electronic devices lead to distraction, a leading cause of death. Although I hate to say this, it was an appearent suicide. On what facts do you base this, Norm? If she were looking at the train & showed awareness of it, then I might agree that your suicide theory has merit. Since she was looking away from the approaching train and paying attention to her electronic devices, it looks more like a simple, tragic lapse in judgment. Of course we'll probably never know. Tom
I'm inclined to agree with Tom. The train struck this young teen, probably wearing a headset, from behind. Teens are careless and tend to feel invulnerable. Without some clear indication, suicide seems unlikely. Sad.
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It doesn't stop.
Sir C - The public will see "a train". Rail fans see 11 motors. I hope his next job doesn't involve sharp instruments....
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mudchickenIt doesn't stop.
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BOB WITHORNIt appears that the 63 year old may have had a bit too much to drink. He was laying "on or near" the tracks. There is a bar a short distance from tracks. Had someone with him who took off, probably had also had a couple. State Police used a chopper, found him as well as the person that pointed a laser at the chopper. Both had an 'interview' with the police.
It sure seems that the Darwinian axiom is working to depopulate the shallow end of the gene pool.
This was posted on another forum by a railroader I know and trust. I don't do Facebook but he does. Very sad indeed.
"The girl was in Fenton High School. She went on her smart phone and changed her Facebook "status" to "dead."Within five minuets she walked in front of the CN train."
Norm48327 This was posted on another forum by a railroader I know and trust. I don't do Facebook but he does. Very sad indeed. "The girl was in Fenton High School. She went on her smart phone and changed her Facebook "status" to "dead."Within five minuets she walked in front of the CN train."
Railroader or not, that is not a conformed post. You are merely passing along possibly self-serving gossip. Such stuff is insensitive to an already grieving family.
It's been reported in the media that she recently changed schools.
It may be conjecture, but the possibility of bullying certainly could come into play here.
The FB status for her (and the pictures of her on that site do look like those already posted) is, indeed, "dead." Also telling are a number of posts mentioning death, including one image containing the message "sorry for my existance."
As insensitive as it may be, there's a lot pointing to the very real possibility that this was a "suicide by train." It's a shame that no one saw that possibility in her posts on FB.
tree68 It's been reported in the media that she recently changed schools. It may be conjecture, but the possibility of bullying certainly could come into play here. The FB status for her (and the pictures of her on that site do look like those already posted) is, indeed, "dead." Also telling are a number of posts mentioning death, including one image containing the message "sorry for my existance." As insensitive as it may be, there's a lot pointing to the very real possibility that this was a "suicide by train." It's a shame that no one saw that possibility in her posts on FB.
Maybe true, maybe not. Bullying is often done on FB and FB accounts are easy to hack and make false posts.
schlimm tree68 It's been reported in the media that she recently changed schools. It may be conjecture, but the possibility of bullying certainly could come into play here. The FB status for her (and the pictures of her on that site do look like those already posted) is, indeed, "dead." Also telling are a number of posts mentioning death, including one image containing the message "sorry for my existance." As insensitive as it may be, there's a lot pointing to the very real possibility that this was a "suicide by train." It's a shame that no one saw that possibility in her posts on FB. Maybe true, maybe not. Bullying is often done on FB and FB accounts are easy to hack and make false posts.
It isn't easy to be a kid in the 21st Century. To the extent you have a phone and/or a computer (and no self respecting kid doesn't have both) - there is no place to hide from your tormenters. Even you bedroom isn't free from their reach.
In the aincent days of the 50's and earlier - you had a 'disagreement' you settled it outside in a 'fist fight' that was more wrestling each other and getting grass stains and maybe a split lip and/or a bloody nose. As time marched on knives became common at 'fist fights' and now its guns and there are no move grass stains, split lips or bloody noses - there are just bloody dead bodies.
Here in British Columbia, accidents / deaths due to distracted driving now exceed those due to impaired driving.
I see kids walking on the tracks all the time as I live on them. The sad things is I see adults doing it to. Another thing that happened was someone being killed by a train a few months back (suicide not accident) it really is just crazy some peopel just don't realize how different from cars these things are.
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/04/fort-collins-man-hit-killed-by-train/
Local suspicion is that alcohol was part of the mix. 4th incident in this general area this year (Just south of the BNSF/BN/C&S Mason Street corridor in Ft Collins)
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