This morning while cooking breakfast a Southbound(RR East) Sandusky line NS train went by and it had what appeared to be a I&M RS1325 (in GWI scheme) in tow. I wish I turned off the stove and gave chase but,as we know hindsight is always 20/20.
Any information will be appreciated.
Larry
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Only 2 were built, originally they had a V12 567D engine (the only switchers to use a 567D from what I can tell, others were built with the C or E engines, or the later 645). They are very similar to the GMD-1 which was custom-built for Canadian National and Northern Alberta (V12 567C on a GP9's frame), having also been built on the longer roadswitcher frame but for a different reason: EMD intended for the short hood to contain a steam generator or other accessories, but none were built this way. Some GMD-1s were built with steam gennies, but the main reason for the longer frame and smaller engine was to lessen and spread the unit's weight around for operation on light-duty branchlines (most of CN's fleet came with 3-axle A1A trucks too and extra-small fuel tanks, these units did not have steam generators).
The 2 RS1325s have spent their entire working lives in freight service with I&M (originally named Chicago & Illinois Midland), I had forgotten about them and it is great to see they are still in use. I am sure you will get another opportunity to chase one (or both!).
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
SD70M-2Dude Only 2 were built, originally they had a V12 567D engine (the only switchers to use a 567D from what I can tell, others were built with the C or E engines, or the later 645). They are very similar to the GMD-1 which was custom-built for Canadian National and Northern Alberta (V12 567C on a GP9's frame), having also been built on the longer roadswitcher frame but for a different reason: EMD intended for the short hood to contain a steam generator or other accessories, but none were built this way. Some GMD-1s were built with steam gennies, but the main reason for the longer frame and smaller engine was to lessen and spread the unit's weight around for operation on light-duty branchlines (most of CN's fleet came with 3-axle A1A trucks too and extra-small fuel tanks, these units did not have steam generators). The 2 RS1325s have spent their entire working lives in freight service with I&M (originally named Chicago & Illinois Midland), I had forgotten about them and it is great to see they are still in use. I am sure you will get another opportunity to chase one (or both!).
Enjoy! : [not my photos] http://www.railpictures.net/photo/553840/
and in colors(currently) of G&W paint also in Springfield, Il.
[again not my photo] @ http://www.railpictures.net/photo/425046/
I don't think that he was asking for pictures or the history of the model, but rather was inquiring why it was in the train that he saw. The former C&IM is located central Illinois and the NS Sandusky line is east of there in Ohio, so he didn't spot it on home rails.
Is it going somewhere for shopping, is it leaving its only home to date after being transferred to a different G&W shortline, has it been sold for re-use or rebuilding to a different company, has it been sold for scrap, etc?
Leo_Ames I don't think that he was asking for pictures or the history of the model, but rather was inquiring why it was in the train that he saw. The former C&IM is located central Illinois and the NS Sandusky line is east of there in Ohio, so he didn't spot it on home rails. Is it going somewhere for shopping, is it leaving its only home to date after being transferred to a different G&W shortline, has it been sold for re-use or rebuilding to a different company, has it been sold for scrap, etc?
Leo_Ames: Sorry if I stirred the pot for you.
First: I was unfamiliar with the RS1325-type of locomotive. Hence the photos. I thought that the photos would be a helpful addition to the Thread for others, as well. I guess ny failure was a lack of further comment?
Secondly: As possibly, some others who post around here, I was only vaguely familiar with the G&W RR and their operations. Why then would they transfer power around? Your explanations could have been on-point.
The name Genessee & Wyoming RR. See link @ http://gold.mylargescale.com/Scottychaos/GW/GWpage.html seems to indicate a Northeastern U.S. origin. Possibly, their Corporate offices (and Shops?) are located in that Region?
Multiple shortline operators of disconnected lines need an intermediate railroad to move equipment from, and to those lines and their point of useage.
A case in point might be WATCO Corp. from Pittsburg, Ks. and their need to move power to one, or from, one of their disconnected properties, say their 'new' operation in Ohio and West Va. The KNWA RR See link @ http://www.transportjournal.com/de/home/news/artikeldetail/new-shortline-railroad-to-serve-ohio-and-virginia.html
Well, Sam, I had no idea what they were talking about, so I appreciated the pictures.
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"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
I grew up with the RS1325s. They were regular visitors to my home town on the C&IM.
I've got a kid's B&W picture of one of them in a siding at Manito, IL for a meet with an SD18 leading two SD9s. The RS1325 was on a work train and it was sidetracked at Manito to let the "Peoria Turn" go by. It's the only time I recall seeing two trains anywhere near Manito at the same time.
It's sad to see one of them sent away. I hope one, in C&IM colors, makes it to the Illinois Railway Museum.
As soon and I figure out how to do it I'll scan the photo and post it.
Genessee & Wyoming began as a salt-hauling shortline in upstate New York. I believe that expansion into a shortline empire began when it took over the B&O's former BR&P route into Buffalo as the Buffalo & Pittsburgh and the Rochester & Southern.
I would assume that the RS1325's are probably being re-assigned to another G&W shortline.
samfp1943Sorry if I stirred the pot for you.
Don't be so sensitive. You didn't stir anything for me. There was nothing in my response that even remotely sounded negative. So there's no need to "apologize".
I was trying to reiterate and elaborate on what I believed the original question to be since it didn't seem to be perhaps understood by you. Nothing more, nothing less.
This picture from June 11th says that it's going to the Atlantic & Western Railway, another one of the dozens of shortlines in the Genesee & Wyoming family.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4475377
Leaving home, but at least it's not all bad.
Leo_Ames This picture from June 11th says that it's going to the Atlantic & Western Railway, another one of the dozens of shortlines in the Genesee & Wyoming family. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4475377 Leaving home, but at least it's not all bad.
Great! Thank you very much for that information..Now I'm wishing I chased that train.
RS1325 #31 has been retired and is being saved for preservation.
https://www.facebook.com/137895685655/posts/10159251380875656/?d=n
"Today the Monticello Railway Museum (MRM) announced the acquisition of two new diesel-electric locomotives: Chicago & Illinois Midland Railroad RS1325 #31 and Illinois Terminal Railroad SW1200 #784. Both of these historically significant engines and their respective railroads have strong ties to Central Illinois. Their preservation is key to furthering the Monticello Railway Museum’s mission of interpreting the region’s rich railroad history. Chicago & Illinois Midland #31 is one of only two RS1325’s ever built by Electro-Motive Diesel (EMD). A unique design of a light road switcher, the RS1325 combined design elements of both EMD’s GP-series road locomotives and their SW-series switching locomotives. The #31 worked for the Chicago & Illinois Midland Railroad from 1960 until 1996, when the C&IM was acquired by Genesee & Wyoming Inc. and became the Illinois Midland Railroad. The unit was retired after 60 years of freight service in Central Illinois in 2020 before being purchased by MRM. Once delivered to the museum, it will soon be added to the rotation of operating locomotives used on MRM’s historic passenger train rides. As time and funding allows, it will eventually be restored to the C&IM’s classic green paint scheme."
Chicago & Illinois Midland #31 is one of only two RS1325’s ever built by Electro-Motive Diesel (EMD). A unique design of a light road switcher, the RS1325 combined design elements of both EMD’s GP-series road locomotives and their SW-series switching locomotives. The #31 worked for the Chicago & Illinois Midland Railroad from 1960 until 1996, when the C&IM was acquired by Genesee & Wyoming Inc. and became the Illinois Midland Railroad. The unit was retired after 60 years of freight service in Central Illinois in 2020 before being purchased by MRM. Once delivered to the museum, it will soon be added to the rotation of operating locomotives used on MRM’s historic passenger train rides. As time and funding allows, it will eventually be restored to the C&IM’s classic green paint scheme."
Anyone know the status of #30? Always pictured one of these ending up at IRM, so hopefully this one enjoys a similar fate when her running days are over.
The 30 is still on the Atlantic and Western Railroad in Sanford, North Carolina. From the latest photo that I found taken this past April, its looking pretty rough. The 30 was involved in a rollover derailment on the IMRR in 2014 before Genesee & Wyoming sent it east to North Carolina in 2016.
Here‘s a link to a picture of the derailment:
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/475545/
This is what the 30 looked like after repairs en route to the ATW:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/26614922@N05/27527772831
Here‘s a photo taken in June. The 30 has finally been patched for the ATW:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/photos_by_laurence/50002706572
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