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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, April 1, 2016 9:55 AM

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Deggesty
Not absolutely true; here is the truth: the PFC yelled, "Hey snakes, Y'all go away." 

 

Oh, is that the correct spelling?  I didn't know that.  I apologize for my error.

Anyway, I came back from Virginia saying "Y'all" a lot.  Two of my female cousins found that extremely funny.

 

 

Your apology is accepted, especially considering that you did not grow up where people know how to talk. I'm glad you learned some of the proper way.Big Smile

Next week, I will be going back to where the people know how to talk, seeing college friends and visiting a cousin who lives on the Northern Neck of Virginia.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Friday, April 1, 2016 10:31 AM

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Deggesty
Not absolutely true; here is the truth: the PFC yelled, "Hey snakes, Y'all go away." 

 

Oh, is that the correct spelling?  I didn't know that.  I apologize for my error.

Anyway, I came back from Virginia saying "Y'all" a lot.  Two of my female cousins found that extremely funny.

In these parts, the expression kind of descends to 'yawl'. Smile, Wink & Grin

Actually, I kind of make fun of such things but I really think y'all or however you spell it is infinitely superior to its "yunz" equivalent in my native Western Pennsylvania.  And don't get me started on "warsh"  as in "warsh your hanz before eating" !

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Posted by cefinkjr on Friday, April 1, 2016 10:57 AM

CMStPnP
I think you misunderstood what I said.

Not so much.  More a different understanding of terms.  For instance, "choice" of branch was the same in my day.  Part of applying for a commission was listing your three branch preferences, one of which had to be a combat branch (mine were TC, Armor, and MP), and first duty station preference in very general terms (mine were Europe, Far East, and CONUS).  Top students, academically and in my case, performance at ROTC summer camp), usually got their first choice, etc.  I was commissioned in Armor and, after the normal stint at Fort Knox for AOOC and a short TDY there with the "school troops", I went to Korea for a year.

CMStPnP
One of the biggest benefits I got out of the Army was living and working with [a wide range of people with different backgrounds].

Fully agree with you here with [my amendment].  Prime example was my first tank driver --- a tall skinny kid from Harlem who had never driven an automobile but handled an M-48 like it was a sports car.  (He had perfected the strictly forbidden Neutral Steer While Moving maneuver. "Didn't see that in the manual, Sir.") His closest friend in the platoon was a mountain of a guy from Iowa.  These two were as different as they could be in every imaginable way but were awesome as a pair.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, April 1, 2016 12:17 PM

cefinkjr
And don't get me started on "warsh"  as in "warsh your hanz before eating" !

Better stay out of Bahston...

Whilst visiting New Hampshah with my now-ex years ago, I passed up an opportunity to purchase a book entitled "How to Speak New Hampshire..."

 

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Posted by wanswheel on Friday, April 1, 2016 6:28 PM

CMStPnP
Met General Westmoreland in 1986 duing a Week of Eagles get together, he was retired of course and it was right after the Dan Rather hatchet job he took.    He was very nice and I am aware a lot of the Vietnam Vets do not like him.    Still nice of him to show up and great history to see the guy in the flesh and hear him speak.

 

 

 

JFK Library photos, 1962. I shook hands with General Westmoreland at my sister's wedding reception at West Point in 1963, without even imagining he would be my commanding general in about 4 years. He was very impressive. I was 16.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Friday, April 1, 2016 6:56 PM

wanswheel: Is he wearing the Army summer white uniform that was authorized then or the "sun tan" uniform?  Hard to tell in a B/W photo.

I was married in an Army summer white.  The only time I ever wore it. Smile, Wink & Grin

Edited to add: I'm thinking he's wearing white.  One officer in the background to the left saluting appears to be wearing "sun tans"; didn't we wear the standard green hat with "sun tans"?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Friday, April 1, 2016 8:13 PM

   Speaking of the proper form for the second person plural pronoun, when I was in the army, in the middle of all the banter from people from all over the country, one private from the Pittsburg area said of southerners, "You-uns can't even talk right.  You-uns-all say 'you-all.'"   Personally, I kinda like the New York and Philadelphia form: "yous."

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Posted by wanswheel on Friday, April 1, 2016 10:06 PM

“President Kennedy visits with three cadets whom he nominated to the USMA while Senator of Massachusetts. The cadets, standing at right, are (L-R): Peter J. Oldfield, David G. Binney, and Kevin G. Renaghan. Also pictured: Military Aide to the President, General Chester V. Clifton; Secretary of the Army, Elvis J. Stahr, Jr. (partially hidden); Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Lyman L. Lemnitzer; General Maxwell D. Taylor (partially hidden); Superintendent of the USMA, Major General William C. Westmoreland; Major General Henry Clay Hodges, Jr. (in wheelchair), of the class of 1881.”

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Posted by greyhounds on Friday, April 1, 2016 10:48 PM

cefinkjr
I quite agree with your comment about containers because the first big container ship I ever saw was in the Port of Quinhon, RVN when I arrived there aboard USNS General John Pope (AP110). 

In his excellent book "The BOX --- How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger" author Marc Levinson devotes an entire chapter to Vietnam.

The only existing RVN deep water break bulk port (Saigon) just couldn't handle what needed to be brought in.  But then Malcom McLean's Sea-Land offered the much more efficient container alternative.  The army saw the advantages and containerization (along with Sea-Land) got a big kick start.    

Find the book at:

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9383.html

As a personal note, I think that Malcom McLean is way, way overrated as the founder of containerization.  Alfred Holland Smith, president of the New York Central, was more than 30 years ahead of him.  But Smith's innovations were stopped by the government fools of the Interstate Commerce Commission.  McLean was simply the first to be allowed to use containerization.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:05 PM

General Westmoreland on the Bob Hope show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHICN1QRH5Q&t=18m40s

 

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