http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/02/09/Trail-derails-near-Marysville.html
"MARYSVILLE, Ohio — A CSX train loaded with cargo boxes and bound for the Honda plant hit a stationary rail car on a track behind the Scotts Miracle-Gro chemical plant in Union County this morning, derailing 10 cars and an engine and injuring two CSX employees."
Some photos on RP.net ... Looks like a model railroad.
It took me a moment to realize what the "reporter" meant by "cargo boxes." Apparently, the "reporter" knows nothing of containers. Also, I was trying to determine, from the pictures, what "railcar" was hit.
Johnny
About 25 seconds in the video you can see the hopper car that was struck.
Sorry - photo and story don't jive. What I see makes my skin crawl. CSX operating department probably going nucking futs right now.
When the real story surfaces, let us know.
A little better reporting ..
http://nbc4i.com/2016/02/09/scottslawn-road-closed-due-to-train-derailment/
Especially, IF it was a railroad employee.
The ol' speculator says that it was pretty obvious from the aerial view that the train crew wasn't expecting to "take spur" here. I'm not sure what type of signal system is in force on this line (given the importance of the line, there has to be something), but shouldn't there have been some signal indication of a switch not properly lined? If it were a switch that the local crew forgot to close after finishing its work in the plant, they should be sweating (the conductor still has his switch key, right? -- a few people will know what I'm talking about there!)! Vandalism?Not drawing conclusions yet; not all of the information is in.
Carl
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As a side note, the linked story talked about the containers going to a nearby Honda plant, which is actually northwest of Marysville. That seemed odd, at least until I found the plant and noticed that not only did they have a large stretch of tracks for auto racks, there was also a container yard with at least one lift unit visible. That was a new one for me, as I don't recall seeing a customer-specific intermodal transfer facility before.
Learn something new every day.
Carl,
It's been said on other forums that it's dark territory. Looking on Google Earth, I can not see any line-side signals. I would hazard a guess the only indicator may be a small target atop the switch stand.
Norm
I was just going to make note of that. This is an old Conrail (nee-T&OC) line, and is in fact dark territory (though historically it might have been part of the first CTC installation ever).I also read that the industry at this location has some sort of rights that allow it to access the CSX main line for servicing spurs on both sides of the track. I assume that they would have to receive permission to occupy and report themselves clear. But there is another set of people that will have to be questioned...and maybe some of them should be sweating!
CShaveRR I was just going to make note of that. This is an old Conrail (nee-T&OC) line, and is in fact dark territory (though historically it might have been part of the first CTC installation ever).I also read that the industry at this location has some sort of rights that allow it to access the CSX main line for servicing spurs on both sides of the track. I assume that they would have to receive permission to occupy and report themselves clear. But there is another set of people that will have to be questioned...and maybe some of them should be sweating!
If ANYONE accesses CSX Main Tracks they MUST be qualified on CSX Rules and have in their possession a current CSX Train Bulletin - just like any other train crew occupying CSX tracks. Under CSX rules, they must request permission to occupy Main track from the Train Dispatcher and must report when they are clear and the switches have been secured for Main Track movement.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Balt, it seems to me that that would be the required procedure when any industry has access to the rails of any road; am I right?
Even road crews here get an EC1 line 11(?) permission to operate mainline switches.
If we're going to assume anything, I think we might be safe assuming that someone neglected to restore a switch.
The rest of the circumstances are another story. In addition to the possibility of the industry, it's entirely possible that the last local that served the plant is to fault.
It'll all come out in the wash.
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Deggesty It took me a moment to realize what the "reporter" meant by "cargo boxes." Apparently, the "reporter" knows nothing of containers. Also, I was trying to determine, from the pictures, what "railcar" was hit.
It looks like someone forgot to line the main back for the main, the switch is just on the far side of the road...the train looks like it was routed into a small holding yard or siding.
Bet there is a vinyl removal procedure in store for the two employees!
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Oh and the stock devaluation is?
Poor CSX. These accidents are 100% preventable.
Hope the employees are okay, that is what counts.
Human error again.
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