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Reclaimed Spinoffs
Posted by MarknLisa on Monday, January 25, 2016 4:06 PM

Another thread mentions the IC spinning off the Chicago, Central in Pacific in 1985 and reclaiming it in 1996.   The BN spun off the Nebraska Northeastern in 1996 and that line became BNSF property in 2012. 

What other lines have been spun off and later reclaimed by the parent line, or it's successor?

 

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Posted by Ulrich on Monday, January 25, 2016 5:16 PM

Ottawa Central Railway and New Brunswick East Coast Railway were both spun off by CN back in the 90s and subsequently repurchased by CN between 2005 and 2010.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, January 25, 2016 8:12 PM

I believe ICE was spun-off by CP, then later reclaimed.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, January 25, 2016 8:15 PM

Didn't UP get rid of the Missouri & North Arkansas branch, and later reclaim at least part of it?

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Posted by NorthWest on Monday, January 25, 2016 8:42 PM

If I remember correctly, Stampede Pass was spun off to Washington Central in 1986 until BNSF paid a large premium to purchase it back about 1996.

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Posted by VerMontanan on Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:34 AM

The former Yellowstone Valley Railroad (Glendive to Snowden and Bainville to Scobey in Montana) is back in BNSF hands.  The entity survives as a switching railroad at Dore, North Dakota.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:54 AM

CShaveRR

Didn't UP get rid of the Missouri & North Arkansas branch, and later reclaim at least part of it?

 

Carl:  There is not a lot of information on M&NA.  It originally started at a junction at Seligman,Mo. and to Eureka Springs,Ar. then to its approximate mid point at Harrison,Ar.  and finally to a point in the Helena,Ar. area where with a Mississippi River Car Ferry, made a connection at Friars Point, Ms. with the ICRR.  It later had a Wester extension to Neosho, Mo and a jct with the Kansas City Southern, where it utilized trackage right authority to Joplin,Mo.

The M&NA suffered a tragic accident in August  of 1914 when its Motor Car was rear ended by KCS Passenger train at Tipton Ford, Mo. 39 passengers and crew were killed, and 25 injured.  On its' East end it (M&NA) was subject to the annual Spring flood cycle of the Mississippi River.

The M&NA was abandoned in section over a period of time see link @ http://www.abandonedrails.com/Missouri_and_North_Arkansas_Railroad

The M&NA is not to be confused with the (MNA) Missouri&Northern Arkansas RR wich is part of Gennessee&Wyoming Corp: see link for map of their property @G&WRR--http://www.gwrr.com/operations/railroads/north_america/missouri__northern_arkansas_railroad.be

Note: Carl ( CShaveRR ) The folling information may be the source for your information on the MOPAC/UPRR connection?

FTA:"...The line was initially chartered in 1883 and was part of the Missouri Pacific Railroad's mainline between Kansas City and Memphis, Tennessee. The MNA began operations on December 13, 1992 and purchased the 102-mile (164 km) segment from Bergman to Guion, Arkansas, from Union Pacific. Other operated segments are leased from the Union Pacific and BNSF Railroads. The route from Fort Scott, Kansas, to Nevada and Clinton, Missouri, was once part of the mainline of the Missouri Kansas Texas Railroad from Parsons, Kansas, to Sedalia and St. Louis, Missouri. The track between Nevada, Missouri and Fort Scott, Kansas is still an active and important link between the M&NA and BNSF railway to Kansas City, Missouri.

MNA is owned by Genesee & Wyoming, a short-line railroad holding company, having been purchased in 2013 with the acquisition of RailAmerica who bought the MNA back in 2000..."

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_and_Northern_Arkansas_Railroad

 

 

 


 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:17 AM

Any chance that Big Brother would want to buy back MRL?

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Posted by MarknLisa on Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:18 PM

Thumbs UpInteresting stuff!  Thanks!

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:25 PM

Ulrich

Ottawa Central Railway and New Brunswick East Coast Railway were both spun off by CN back in the 90s and subsequently repurchased by CN between 2005 and 2010.

 

During the same time frame out west CN also repurchased the Lakeland & Waterways, Athabasca Northern, Mackenzie Northern (Railink) and the Savage Alberta Railway (ex-Alberta Railnet), all these lines are in northern Alberta and have been quite profitable for CN since the repurchase, unlike Ottawa Central and NBEC which have been threatened with partial abandonment more recently.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:01 PM

Back in 2005 there was a 'shuffle' done that involved the CSXT and the Appalacian and Ohio RR; which at the time was being operated as a Watco Companies property..It was a former B&O RR branchline that ran from Grafton,WV.  area to Cowan,WV. Its primary traffic was Coal.   [Watco was operating it as a line spun off by CSX.  It was noticable here in Kansas, as the former UPRR C-C power from A&O wound up around here on other Watco lines; which had been pretty much lighter, B-B powered units  ]       

    In 2005 in what seemed to be a fairly quick fashion(?) Watco lost the operation of A&O.  The A&O was transferred in 2006 to an entity called Four Rivers Transportation which then apparently morphed into Paducah and Louisville Transportation, a Corp that is/was partly owned by CSX(?)..

Now CSX is 'rationalizing' (?) its operations in Coal country; along with NS...  Strange goings on.Whistling

 

 

 


 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:05 PM

samfp1943

Back in 2005 there was a 'shuffle' done that involved the CSXT and the Appalacian and Ohio RR; which at the time was being operated as a Watco Companies property..It was a former B&O RR branchline that ran from Grafton,WV.  area to Cowan,WV. Its primary traffic was Coal.   [Watco was operating it as a line spun off by CSX.  It was noticable here in Kansas, as the former UPRR C-C power from A&O wound up around here on other Watco lines; which had been pretty much lighter, B-B powered units  ]       

    In 2005 in what seemed to be a fairly quick fashion(?) Watco lost the operation of A&O.  The A&O was transferred in 2006 to an entity called Four Rivers Transportation which then apparently morphed into Paducah and Louisville Transportation, a Corp that is/was partly owned by CSX(?)..

Now CSX is 'rationalizing' (?) its operations in Coal country; along with NS...  Strange goings on.Whistling

The A&O is still delivering a 120 car train or two a day to Grafton for movement East of Grafton on CSX.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:25 PM

This is kind of a stretch but I'll put it out there anyway.  The P&LE was a subsidiary of the NYC.  In the PC merger, P&LE decided to go their own way, and stayed out of PC.  After the steel industry melt down P&LE was absorbed by CSX.  In the ConRail split up, CSX basically became the successor of NYC.

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