RR Police Dog killed by rail yard burglars

[Anonymous]

Okay if I have a dog and somebody runs over it its consindered a property crime
BUT If its a police dog its a felony? Why should the police dog get more rights then my dog? All not all people(Dogs?) Equal under the eyes of the law?
If get in fight with my neighbor I could claim self defence but if I am defending my self against police brutality and injure or kill a police officer I am toast. Is a Police Officers Life more sacred then that of a civilan?

[edblysard]

Yes.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Clevelandrocks


If get in fight with my neighbor I could claim self defence but if I am defending my self against police brutality and injure or kill a police officer I am toast.

If you're resisting an officer under any pretext, you are fighting the Law and it's enforcement. and since they put their lives on the line everyday to protect even your rights in this country, they deserve the enhanced protections afforded them. You want to fight percieved police Brutality, use the courts instead of your fists, that's what they're there for.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Clevelandrocks

Okay if I have a dog and somebody runs over it its consindered a property crime
BUT If its a police dog its a felony? Why should the police dog get more rights then my dog? All not all people(Dogs?) Equal under the eyes of the law?
If get in fight with my neighbor I could claim self defence but if I am defending my self against police brutality and injure or kill a police officer I am toast. Is a Police Officers Life more sacred then that of a civilan?

Rocks. Please come down here and bring your toaster, I'd like to toast you personally.

LC

[Anonymous]

Gotta jump into this.
The NS down here does hire security guards to watch over their yard property. Security guards are generally private citizens with no greater (or lesser) power to make arrests than any other citizen.

Police officers (and deputies) are sworn officers who are usually "certified" in their duties through successfull attendance at a police academy. K-9 officers are already certified officers who receive specialized dog handler training. The dogs themselves are speciality trained and in my patrol area, "recertified" once a month.
Railroad police are also certified officers- usually they are police officers who have already been on the street in another department.

It's tough to argue law without knowing local laws. In my neck of the woods, if you run from a police officer (or deputy) you get charged with resisting arrest. If you try to run a police officer over, the resisting arrest charge is elevated to a felony assault charge. The same applies to a K-9.

The comment that cops should not be protected by their badge or uniform by special laws is an interesting one. Conventional wisdom says that if someone is stupid enough to attack a cop, they won't have any second thoughts about robbing, beating or killing the average citizen.

I'm somewhat reassured that average citizens populate these forums- for the most part, it's a gracious link with normalcy. What many average citizens don't understand is that violent criminals aren't your average citizen. They require extraordinary measures of law enforcement- like K-9 units, handcuffs, mace (which is obsolete, by the way- and doesn't affect a lot of nuts out there) and other tools of the trade that seem harsh and brutal to the average citizen out there.

The average citizen also seems to believe that your average police officer or deputy can't wait to get into a physical confrontation with anyone. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Generally, the use of force is pretty well monitored from inside and outside most departments. Dirty Harry only exists in the movies.

The link between a handler and his/her K-9 is as deep and close as I am with my human patrol partner. The loss of such a fine animal is as emotionally devastating to a cop as losing a close friend.

Erik

[gabe]

I think Erik's last paragraph is the correct response to Clevlandrocks's contention and the reason for the law. Yes, it is also true that someone who is willing to kill a police dog would likely do more crimes to normal citizens.

However, officers develop incredible bonds with their dogs and fellow officers who are in the trenches together. It is necessary to give them the impression (of what I hope is reality) that society cares for them and wants to afford them protections to people who want to hurt them because they are doing their job.

If we treated the intentionally killing of a police dog like a normal dog, it would send the wrong message to officers and weaken "the fraternity."

Gabe

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

QUOTE: Originally posted by Clevelandrocks

Okay if I have a dog and somebody runs over it its consindered a property crime
BUT If its a police dog its a felony? Why should the police dog get more rights then my dog? All not all people(Dogs?) Equal under the eyes of the law?
If get in fight with my neighbor I could claim self defence but if I am defending my self against police brutality and injure or kill a police officer I am toast. Is a Police Officers Life more sacred then that of a civilan?

Rocks. Please come down here and bring your toaster, I'd like to toast you personally.

LC

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