There are at least three BKTY 50 ft boxcars assigned in a shipping pool to a industry on the BNSF La Junta Sub in western KS. Two are plain jane w/ no markings, the other has GATX in large block letters on the upper corner. Would these be considered to be Katy (UP) cars? I know that these reporting marks were used by MKT back many yrs ago.
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Yes, these are cars assigned to UP by a major lessor of freight equipment: General American Marks Company, hence the "GATX" logo in the upper right corner of some fully-repainted cars.General American, a couple of years ago, bought the box car fleet previously owned by General Electric Rail Services Corporation, including the bazillions of cars bearing reportig marks EEC, HS, and perhaps a few others. These cars are being relettered to WRWK, BKTY, and perhaps other reporting marks. The BKTY reporting marks were only recently resurrected, so they might be exclusively for these General American cars (I still don't know what prompts UP to letter certain leased cars CHTT, others CTRN, others CMO, and so on...).
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CShaveRR Yes, these are cars assigned to UP by a major lessor of freight equipment: General American Marks Company, hence the "GATX" logo in the upper right corner of some fully-repainted cars.General American, a couple of years ago, bought the box car fleet previously owned by General Electric Rail Services Corporation, including the bazillions of cars bearing reportig marks EEC, HS, and perhaps a few others. These cars are being relettered to WRWK, BKTY, and perhaps other reporting marks. The BKTY reporting marks were only recently resurrected, so they might be exclusively for these General American cars (I still don't know what prompts UP to letter certain leased cars CHTT, others CTRN, others CMO, and so on...).Also have noticed perhaps two WRWK cars in this pool also. Thanks on the info.
Yes, these are cars assigned to UP by a major lessor of freight equipment: General American Marks Company, hence the "GATX" logo in the upper right corner of some fully-repainted cars.General American, a couple of years ago, bought the box car fleet previously owned by General Electric Rail Services Corporation, including the bazillions of cars bearing reportig marks EEC, HS, and perhaps a few others. These cars are being relettered to WRWK, BKTY, and perhaps other reporting marks. The BKTY reporting marks were only recently resurrected, so they might be exclusively for these General American cars (I still don't know what prompts UP to letter certain leased cars CHTT, others CTRN, others CMO, and so on...).Also have noticed perhaps two WRWK cars in this pool also. Thanks on the info.
WRWK is listed as a Providence and Worcester Railroad reporting mark. Of course, the P&WRR now part of the G&W octopus.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reporting_marks:_W
If my memory serves me correctly, the BKTY reporting marks were originally used on boxcars leased to M-K-T from Bankers Leasing or a similar named firm.
CSSHEGEWISCH If my memory serves me correctly, the BKTY reporting marks were originally used on boxcars leased to M-K-T from Bankers Leasing or a similar named firm.
CShaveRR CSSHEGEWISCH If my memory serves me correctly, the BKTY reporting marks were originally used on boxcars leased to M-K-T from Bankers Leasing or a similar named firm. That's correct, Paul--they got one large batch of cars lettered BKTY, in the late 1960s, and those cars had been retired for a few years, due mostly to age (I can't recall any ever having been relettered or renumbered). So the reporting mark lay unused for a while. My comments and questions still stand; I've found out nothing since the original post. They have added to the cars a little bit, but once these cars get retired, that will be it...again.One thing they did add is a series of hi-cube box cars built in 2000 (by far more recently than any other cars of that type) as NKCR 860001-860065; they were relettered BKTY in 2016. Those will last a bit longe than the other BKTY cars, built in the late 1970s. At the time, it was said "BKTY" stood for "Barringer's Katy" - reference to John Barringer who was, at the time, the M-K-T's president.
That's correct, Paul--they got one large batch of cars lettered BKTY, in the late 1960s, and those cars had been retired for a few years, due mostly to age (I can't recall any ever having been relettered or renumbered). So the reporting mark lay unused for a while. My comments and questions still stand; I've found out nothing since the original post. They have added to the cars a little bit, but once these cars get retired, that will be it...again.One thing they did add is a series of hi-cube box cars built in 2000 (by far more recently than any other cars of that type) as NKCR 860001-860065; they were relettered BKTY in 2016. Those will last a bit longe than the other BKTY cars, built in the late 1970s.
At the time, it was said "BKTY" stood for "Barringer's Katy" - reference to John Barringer who was, at the time, the M-K-T's president.
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