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PRR Position Signal Lights
Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:15 PM

Hey do they still have the ex-Pennsylvannia Position Signal Lights on the joint PRR / Milwaukee Road track, North of Union Station in Chicago?

Anyone know?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:55 PM

I'm almost positive that at least one of the bridges is still there, and I haven't seen anything about them being replaced.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:18 PM

Can they be seen in an oblique aerial view, such as Bing's "Bird's-Eye" view ?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:53 PM

Yes!  Go to the intersection of Racine Avenue and Kinzie Street in Chicago, then head south along Racine until you get to the grade crossing and look east.  

The picture is from about a year ago.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:46 AM

OK thanks for the info, I never thought of using a Map street level view.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:01 PM

CShaveRR
Yes!  Go to the intersection of Racine Avenue and Kinzie Street in Chicago, then head south along Racine until you get to the grade crossing and look east.  

The picture is from about a year ago.

The N. Racine Ave. grade crossing is at: N 41 53.306' W 87 39.413'

Signal bridge itself is at: N 41 53.306' W 87 39.363' 

The signal bridge spans all 3 main tracks - with 1 signal head for each - plus a turnout (switch) on the right where 2 sidings are merging into 1 - but no signal head for either of them, though. 

The signal heads all appear to be facing west for eastward traffic.  The signal bridge is only about 200 ft. east of the N. Racine Ave. grade crossing, and there appears to a large vacant lot on the left (northern) side, so decent photos of it might not be too hard to get. 

Thanks, Carl !  Bow

Looks like there might also be some on the western side of the isolated bridge at: N 41 53.315' W 87 40.212' (between N. Wood St. and N. Paulina St.).  You have to see this one to believe it !  What was the former railroad or trolley line that crossed here, and what is the brief history of this crossing ? 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, May 29, 2015 7:00 AM

The bridge formerly carried the Metropolitan West Side Rapid Transit (later CRT/CTA) Logan Square Line over the MILW and C&NW.  The part of the line between Lake Street and Evergreen (near Division) became a nonrevenue connecting track in 1951 when the West-Northwest (now Blue) Line was completed through the Dearborn Subway and Congress Expressway median.  That line was removed in 1964.  The bridge was left in place since the railroads underneath it had hung signals on it.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Friday, May 29, 2015 8:56 PM

Thanks for that info !  I thought it might have been a trolley or rapid transit line of some sort.  Only in the railroad business would a big bridge still be used 51 years later just to hold up a few 'lightweight' signals . . . Smile, Wink & Grin

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