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Wheely?
Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:40 PM

Not on my Railroad...

 

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by Norm48327 on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:52 PM

Well Hello Mr. Lion. Long time no roar. Seen that done before. Driver didn't put it in park. Crying Does not make track gang happy. Crying

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:57 PM

First - concrete ties.  Now "flared" rails.  What will they think of next?  Shy

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 5:59 PM

Rumble strips to wake up drowsy head-end crews?

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 6:14 PM

BroadwayLion

Not on my Railroad...

 

 

That is just one truck's worth.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 7:53 PM

Mischief One solution to the recent apparent challenge of making sure that a 'parked' train stays put . . . Whistling

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 8:42 PM

Mutant beavers.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 10:28 PM

No, three-phase electric power, and the train stalled at night so the engine crew did not realize that the  train was not moving (as in the GN's first Cascade Tunnel).

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, December 3, 2014 10:35 PM

I've seen similar images, usually involving a Diesel that wasn't properly secured and spun itself into a mess whilst unattended.

I've been over track on a grade that has had similar, but far less deep burns.  Rather like rumble strips...

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Posted by tcwright973 on Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:14 AM

I thought maybe it was a new signal system...

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:37 AM

A few passes with the rail grinder and it will be as good as new.Whistling

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Posted by Euclid on Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:44 AM

What was the actual cause for this wheel slip damage shown in the photo?

If the actual cause is not known, what would be possible causes?

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, December 4, 2014 10:03 AM

So this is that Positive Train Control I've been reading so much about.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, December 4, 2014 10:52 AM

Euclid

What was the actual cause for this wheel slip damage shown in the photo?

If the actual cause is not known, what would be possible causes?

 

My guess -

Relatively large multiple unit consist (5 or more units) - a mix of working and shop bound units - a unit 'back in the consist' doesn't respond to the engineers controls when stopped for a period of time (most likely at a Stop signal) where inspection of the train isn't necessary.  A lone unit continues to operate in a 'run' position with the rest of the train stopped; most likely some kind of defect in the MU cable or MU connections with that particular unit.

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Posted by Euclid on Thursday, December 4, 2014 10:55 AM

Thanks Balt.  That sounds plausible.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, December 4, 2014 8:46 PM

Continous Welded Rail, too - lots of fun to cut out the damaged pieces opposite each other and field-weld in replacement 'patches', including the necessary thermal adjustments - especially if in a hot or cold season . . . Whistling

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, December 5, 2014 6:39 AM

This does beg the question:  How long would it take for such damage to occur?  What kind of speed of rotation?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, December 5, 2014 7:34 AM

tree68

This does beg the question:  How long would it take for such damage to occur?  What kind of speed of rotation?

 

   I may be mistaken, but I remember this one,or a similar photo taken in the aftermath of a very sad event in South Alabama some years back.

    It was on the NS B'ham to Mobile line, and invoved the death of at least one crewman and at the time the serious injury by burn of the second crewman?  I can't remember all the details, but it was a multi-engine power set and a burning trestle.

Linked here is one story @  http://blog.al.com/live/2010/01/railroad_crewmen_burned_when_t.html

and here is a link to a Thread with more detailed explanations on "Railroad Forums.com."  @  http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?31460-NS-Bridge-fire-ends-in-railroader-death

 

 


 

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Posted by Norm48327 on Friday, December 5, 2014 8:29 AM

This is the one, but the wheels weren't turning. Plastic (composite) ties contributed to the fire.

NS bridge fire

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Friday, December 5, 2014 1:37 PM

   Am I interpreting that last picture right?   It looks to me like the rails were softened by the intense heat, and the sheer weight of the locomotive pressed into them, as opposed to the original post where spinning wheels burned into them.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Friday, December 5, 2014 2:11 PM

Paul of Covington

   Am I interpreting that last picture right?  

 

Yes.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, December 8, 2014 8:19 AM

Bump - Still looking for a guestimate on what it would take, time- and speed-wise, to do that kind of damage...

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