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Bicycles on trains.....
Posted by Kozzie on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:09 PM
Downunder here in Brisbane we can take bicycles on the city suburban network trains , (EMUs), with the exception of "rush hour" when the trains are packed.

There's enough room in the vestibule area near the doors for the bike, as long as other passengers aren't blocked. Most cyclists are quite courteous about it.
Just the odd rude person [:(]

It's quite popular here, [:)] especially now that the local city council has put together a large network of bikeways. People hop on and off the trains with the bikes, making connections with the bikeways or other places.

Any "up over" cities have something similar for bicycles on their transit systems?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:21 PM
Not that I know of yet. just rails turned into bike trails.
stay safe
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Posted by Kozzie on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

Not that I know of yet. just rails turned into bike trails.
stay safe
Joe


Oh no Joe [:0] Not that! Horrors! [:0] Peri***he thought! [:0]

We don't want the cyclists taking over do we...they can ride the trains, that's fine, but we can't let them take over the right-of -way...[:0][:(!][:(][:0][:(!][:(]

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:55 PM
You are so right, Kozzie. Let them put bike trails ALONGSIDE the tracks in some
areas if they want, but PLEASE keep the trains' tracks where they are!!
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Posted by jeaton on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:11 PM
Dave,

I did a Google search on "Bicycles on trains" and a lot of references came up.

Chicago Transit Authority subway/elevated trains for one large system. So if you come, bring your bike!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:15 PM
YES! we can fit Four bikes per Train.

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Posted by Kozzie on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Dave,

I did a Google search on "Bicycles on trains" and a lot of references came up.

Chicago Transit Authority subway/elevated trains for one large system. So if you come, bring your bike!!

Jay


Hey Jay!

Thanks for the invite!
And I have a bike too! heh heh...just gotta use it more ..heh heh

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:21 PM
Denver / Light Rail will allow bicycles on trains in off hours. Have yet to see a coach/ car with a byciclestand however. Some parts of the system require a pre-approved free permit before dragging a bike on a train. (Those bike racks on fronts of busses do look like the bike got speared by the bus!....Waiting to see the crosshairs painted on the front windshield of a bus and what a bike hunter permit looks like....bag limit????[}:)])

http://www.bikemap.com/transit/co.htm

http://www.rtd-denver.com/SpecialRides/B_n_Ride/
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Posted by mloik on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:34 PM
Many of the cars on CalTrain (San Jose / San Francisco commuter RR) have spaces for securing bikes. And a lot of people use them.
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Posted by Kozzie on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Denver / Light Rail will allow bicycles on trains in off hours. Have yet to see a coach/ car with a byciclestand however. Some parts of the system require a pre-approved free permit before dragging a bike on a train. (Those bike racks on fronts of busses do look like the bike got speared by the bus!....Waiting to see the crosshairs painted on the front windshield of a bus and what a bike hunter permit looks like....bag limit????[}:)])

http://www.bikemap.com/transit/co.htm

http://www.rtd-denver.com/SpecialRides/B_n_Ride/



Mudchicken, we have bike racks ont he front of our city council buses too! Does look funny but seems to get some use.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:40 PM
We were on holiday in Austria in May. There the trains go everywhere and are on time! They allow bikes on the trains, at least the locals. Not sure about the hi-speed trains. They also allow dogs,skiis,snowboards,backpacks, tents etc.,etc.
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Posted by railman on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:45 PM
if I'm not mistaken, the metro transit buses and the LRT both have the bike barbeque racks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:49 PM
I been on the NYC subway system and seen bikes. Seen alot of things on the subway. I'm not sure what happens at rush hour.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:02 PM
Around New York City, you can, with a permit, bring a bike on the Long Island Railroad and Metro North, with restrictions during certain heavy traffic times. New Jersey Transit permits bikes except at peak times.

Certain Amtrak trains permit assembled bikes onboard. Amtrak's Adirondack train had two types of accomodations, in the baggage car that locks the front wheel to racks in the wall and coaches that have space in the vestibule for two bikes in which the front wheel gets hoisted towards the roof and the bike rides vertically. Removing panniers helps in this case, as does removing front panniers for bikes rolled into baggage cars.

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Posted by Robert Langford on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:04 PM
light rail in Salt Lake City allows bikes on train.
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:52 PM
they're allowed on the trains here in Philly as well except during rush hour, and i believe they are restrected to the last car (whether that is actually enforced, who knows)
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Posted by locomutt on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:01 PM
All of the TARC(Transit Auth. of River City)Coaches have bike racks on the front
of them. Unfortunately, Louisville doesn't have light rail yet. Maybe, if the Federal
government approves it, we MIGHT have light rail in about ten years. Won't hold
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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:09 PM
Both CTA and Pace have bike carriers on the front of their buses, and, as Jay reports, bikes can be carried on CTA trains. All at no charge. Metra, however, doesn't allow them on a regular basis. They have had trials on certain Saturdays (specific routes, specific trains), but nothing seems to have come of that. I, for one, would be glad to be able to take my bike with me on Metra (even paying the extra fare they've required in the trials). Perhaps when the newer coaches, with more room for wheelchair riders, become more widespread, they'll allow bikers to bring them aboard. I'm surprised that Chicago Mayor Daley, himself a recreational bicyclist, hasn't weighed in on this.

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Posted by MP57313 on Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:40 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Kozzie
Any "up over" cities have something similar for bicycles on their transit systems?

Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner in Southern Calif. allows a few bikes. I have also seen them on San Diego's light rail system and San Jose's light rail system. Certain MTA buses in the Los Angeles area have bike racks in front - each holds 2 bikes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

I'm surprised that Chicago Mayor Daley, himself a recreational bicyclist, hasn't weighed in on this.


Have you contacted his office and asked? I hear he's quite open to listening to and responding to citizen's recomendations.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:36 AM
The idea of having bicycles on trains is actually a lot older than some may think!


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Posted by StillGrande on Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:16 AM
The Washington Metro allows bikes on trains on weekends. They are restricted to the first and last door of each car, and no more than 4 per car.

Amtrak, the last time I rode, would not let persons with bikes on a train that did not have a baggage car. Of course, you could drag a giant steamer trunk on the train, but not a bike.
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Posted by corwinda on Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:22 PM
Lane Transit District (Eugene OR) has bike racks on the front of all their busses.
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Posted by dldance on Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:38 PM
BART (San Francisco Bay Area) allows bikes except during rush hours.

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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:56 PM
Hay. . . .. my transit system SEPTA (Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority) allows bikes on all trains. However, this is only on non peak trains, and the regional rail system. This isn't allowed on The ELs, and Subs. Were I live in Philly we do have many bike systems too. Most of them are right next to trackage, or have been converted from rails to trails. Some of them overlook the rivers, and others are located in our famous Feirmount Park.
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