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[quote user="richhotrain"] <blockquote> <div><img src="/TRCCS/Themes/trc/images/icon-quote.gif" /> Bucyrus:</div> <div></div> Rich, Well, yes, they have not said that they suspect everyone photographing trains to be a terrorist.  In fact, as you point out, they have said they realize that everyone photographing trains is not a terrorist.  But we are getting somewhat into semantics.  Homeland Security does know that, of all the people photographing trains, not all of them will be terrorists.  However, Homeland Security regards each and every individual who is photographing trains to be engaging in a behavior that they say is a sign of that person being a terrorist.  And therefore, any incident of this activity that comes to their attention requires them to investigate that person to determine whether he or she is or is not a terrorist.  That much is true, right? So if they feel they have to prove that someone is not a terrorist, then it follows that they have to suspect that that person is a terrorist.  They don’t know that the person is a terrorist.  But they suspect they are.  Suspect does not mean that they have reached a conclusion.  They know that some of the people they suspect will prove to not be what they suspect them of being.     So in the final analysis, Homeland Security knows that not everyone photographing trains is a terrorist.  But every one of them must be investigated to find out whether they are or are not a terrorist.  And until they determine each one is not a terrorist, they suspect each one of being a terrorist.    It boils down to this: Is it possible to check the oil in your car without suspecting it to be low? <div style="clear:both;"></div>   </blockquote> It's more than a matter of semantics.  Some of you guys are simply making unfounded statements.  The Department of Homeland Security has not said that photographing trains is a suspected terrorist activity. The video lists seven signs of terrorism: surveillance inquiries tests of security acquiring supplies suspicious or out of place behavior dry runs/trial runs deploying assets/getting into position Nowhere is photography or photographing trains mentioned in the video.   [/quote] You are right that Homeland Security does not say that photography of trains is one of the signs of terrorism.  But they do list, “Surveillance and Monitoring” as one of the seven signs of terrorism.  Do you think that photography would not be included in surveillance and monitoring?  <o:p></o:p> But aside from these issues as they stand, I think a next stage is surely coming soon.  That will be a law that does forbid photographing key transportation facilities.  What could possibly be posed as an argument against it?  And you have to assume that Homeland Security wants as little suspicious behavior as possible because they have limited resources.
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