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Semi-trailer plowed into an Amtrak train in rural Nevada: 2 killed
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">Henry,</span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">I understand your point, but I don’t think you understood mine.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You are right to point out that the grade crossing signals give a timed warning ahead of a train’s arrival at the crossing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But they give zero warning before they activate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And yet the law says a driver must stop short of them if they activate. </span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">The point I was making was not about giving the driver warning for the train.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>My point was about giving the driver warning for the absolute stop indication of the signals.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The law is not clearly written in regard to driver responsibility when approaching a signalized grade crossing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">You make the analogy to a traffic light with yellow aspect giving warning to the red aspect.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But there is no such warning in the grade crossing signals.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They simply go from clear to stop instantaneously.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So the grade crossing train-warning interval is not intended to give the driver time to stop.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It can’t be, because a driver must be stopped before that interval begins.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">So, for all practical purposes, to comply with crossing law, a driver must stop at all signalized grade crossings in order to be prepared to stop for an instantaneous signal change from clear to stop.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Is that what the law actually intends?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That is not what I was taught in driver training.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It would be a great question for the Nevada State Patrol.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I know of no other instance in highway or railroad signals where a signal changes from clear to stop with no advance warning.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">Drivers can muddle by this ambiguity in the crossing law in city driving.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A cop is probably not going to give a ticket if the signals activate and a driver closely approaching zips through rather than slamming on the brakes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Cops always like to cite common sense.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But when you have a 70-mph highway grade crossing, this ambiguity in the law becomes much more significant.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That is why Nevada should either drop the speed limit in advance of the crossing, or incorporate an active advance warning for the crossing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That would, in effect, provide the missing yellow light so to speak.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p>
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