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[quote user="Convicted One"] <blockquote> <div><img src="/TRCCS/Themes/trc/images/icon-quote.gif" /> Bucyrus:</div> <div></div> We are now 14 pages into this thread, and still have not concluded who was at fault in these two run-into-train crashes. <div style="clear:both;"></div>   </blockquote>   What exactly are you trying to say with that comment? it sounds "baiting". Are you serious, or are you merely venting frustration because  we haven't elected your preferred outlook on the matter?   I think that it's fairly certain that the eventual outcome will find mutual fault, with a ratio of eventual responsibility based upon who presents the most convincing argument, or who is best able to tug on the heartstrings of a jury, if in fact it goes all the way to trial. <div style="clear:both;"></div> [/quote] I am serious when I say we can’t agree on the fault for the crashes.  I am not trying to discredit anyone’s theory.  My point is that there is no consensus.  I am not even sure of my own position on this because when I read the Illinois law, it seems to conflict on the meaning of the crossbucks at signalized crossings.   <o:p></o:p> I understand your point about sharing the blame as determined by a jury.  But before we get to a jury trial, I expect traffic laws to completely and unequivocally define the operation of motor vehicles in a way that prevents collisions.  I believe that juries sometimes split the blame because the absolute truth of how the collision occurred cannot be determined because there was no neutral witness.  And in some cases, two conflicting drivers can both be breaking the law.  An example would be a driver failing to yield when proceeding from a stop sign, and conflicting with another driver who is traveling at twice the speed limit.   <o:p></o:p> My point in making the comment about this thread not resolving the blame is this:  The failure to come to a consensus about the blame means that there is lack of consensus on the rules.  To me, this illustrates a major part of the problem of grade crossing crashes.
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