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RR geneology
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:58 PM
I'm looking for a geneology of American RR (all of them), with a family tree effect. Maybe with time lines(dates of operation) and what lines bought the others. If I can't find this, then I am going to spend, what, 5 years?, making it, with everyones help. Any help is appreciated.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:37 PM
This information exists, the question is where. Have you tried a Google search using something like "railroad history mergers"?
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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:40 PM
Check back issues of TRAINS. Seems like I recall a series of articles that had exactly that kind of information. I just don't recall when.

While you're searching, try "fallen flags".

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Posted by gabe on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:45 PM
TRAINS regularly has geneologies of various railroad. Given the few railroads in existence today, three or four geneologies should be about 80% of the work. I know Trains recently did a UP and an NS geneology. I wouldn't be surprised to be forgetting about a BNSF or a CSX.

I personally would love to see a CN geneology. With the IC, GTW, WC lines (among others) it would have to be quite large.

Good luck,

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Posted by MP57313 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:01 PM
The Google search is a good idea. A few years ago I saw some RR family trees on the web. They were super-detailed, of all major US lines back to the 1800s, with lots of small local lines included. The ones I saw were posted by a guy named 'Blackie' in New Zealand.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:07 PM
There is a book called "Railroad Mergers-History,Analysis and Insight". this book is a VERY excellent reference for the railroads of today and yesterday. I do know that the book has a few pages detailing the railroads and what they aquired. The book is published by Simmons-Boardman.They do have a web-site" Simmons-Boardman.com. Granted the book is a bit pricey,but I'm sure it can be ordered through your public library, on the Inter-library loan service,for you to look at. This is where I was able to get it,and made copies of selected parts from it.
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Posted by DSchmitt on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:08 PM
To be really comprehensive it would probably be more of a tangled net. There would also be some unconnected strings.

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Posted by joseph2 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:07 PM
Here is a link to a site that has corporate histories www.trainweb.org/chorina/index.html on the left of the page,click on the locomotive to find the RR history. Joe G.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:27 PM
Found it !!!! Trains magazine,issues January and February 1999. January covers the BNSF,Conrail, and the CN. February covers the NS and the Union Pacific.If anybody wants a copy of these articles let me know.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:18 PM
Toby
they also have rr geneology within this website too.happy hunting!!!
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Posted by morseman on Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:43 PM
I wonder if you would be interested in Canadian railroads. My son gave me a book for Christmas several years ago and I'm working on updating it>...........LINES OF COUNTRY -AN ATLAS OF RAILWAY AND WATERWAY HISTORY IN CANADA..... a lenghty title for a voluminous book full of maps and illustrations and it also covers streetcar lines and interurbans.. Put out by Boston Press, Author is Christopher Anderae. printed in 1997 This book shows all rr lines in Canada since their inception and their mergers, routes, abandonments etc. It's pricy, don't know the cose but well worh the price if you are interested in just one book on Canadian railroads
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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:31 PM
When the ICC made all the railroads map their railroads the same way and instituted the Uniform System of Accounts under 49CFR1200 between 1913 and 1920 in the valuation acts....each railroad did a line diagram of how each of their railroads evolved in a line chart/ schematic...I still have copies of the D&RG and B&O (Ohio) lines.....all can be found in the National Archives in Washington, DC with a little $$ and a little effort.
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Posted by locomutt on Friday, August 13, 2004 9:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joseph2

Here is a link to a site that has corporate histories www.trainweb.org/chorina/index.html on the left of the page,click on the locomotive to find the RR history. Joe G.


That appears to be a decent web site,I just looked at it,and without trying,
found several major errors of the formation of CSX.

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Posted by MP57313 on Sunday, August 15, 2004 1:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt

QUOTE: Originally posted by joseph2

Here is a link to a site that has corporate histories www.trainweb.org/chorina/index.html on the left of the page,click on the locomotive to find the RR history. Joe G.


That appears to be a decent web site,I just looked at it,and without trying,
found several major errors of the formation of CSX.


Yeah that's the one I was trying to recall. [If you send him an email his name shows up as Blackie; he's in New Zealnad IIRC]. A lot of work put in to the listings here, with several "??" that are still left to be verified. There is a wealth of info here!

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