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Ok Ptt100 caught my error, i meant first or second gen deisels. An SD90MAC pulls 170,000 lbs. continuous TE, while an Allegheny Pulls 110,200 lbs. now taking into account advances in technology that would eb applied to a newer steam locaomotive, that 110,200 lbs could be doubled easily, possibly even trippled. Now look at the Allegheny , with a F7 with a traction of 57,500lbs and there is the 2:1 ratio. if the deisels have advanced on a 3:1 ratio, it is not improbable that a new steam locomotive could be designed to exceed the 3:1 ratio, thus allowing a traction effort of 300,000+. On other notes, any new steam locomotives bult will probably be either designed to burn oil, or more probable, burn Deisel fuel. Since deisel fuel would allow a New Steamer to ustalize the same fueling depots as deisels. Also, the deisel fuel could be used to power an electrical generator in the tender that would then supply power to an electrical heater on the boiler, thus removing the firebox allowing for more weight on the drivers. Speaking of weight, new technologies in metalogy have produced heavier metals that could be placed over the drivers in less space than before, thus allowing more force on the drivers. There are many other advances as well that could be utilized, so in realiity, if a Manufactier was to make a New steamer for the US market, it is highly likely that it could out perform a deisel and we all know Steam attracts morepeople than deisels, so maybe Amtrak should look into this idea. Jay
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