Roundhouses and Turntables (and transfer tables)

[Cotton Belt MP104]

MossRoad: Could you email me to discuss your find at Newport AR? I have another new one to give you. Yet another you have located some time ago, is very interesting and I would like to seek your idea about it's uniqueness. thanks endmrw1130161705

[Semper Vaporo]

Thanks and keep 'em comin' MossRoad... I am adding them to my files...

But...

Unfortunately, I am unable to upload new/updated files to the webspace where I have them for public access.  Werkin' on getting that fixed... or... well... the powers that be over that webspace CLAIM to be werkin' on it.  Lots of upset users of that service.

[MossRoad]

Thanks! Take your time. I'm just having fun going over all the "holes" on google earth where a roundhouse should be, but isn't. That topo map really helps. About half of the ones I found show a turntable on the topo. The other half just show a fan of tracks on the topo, but using the time slider on google earth reveals the foundations. 

[Semper Vaporo]

HEY!  Stumbled onto another on my own! 

Saint-Constant, QC, Canada TT - Museum   45°22'27.34"N  73°33'57.40"W

Actually saw a post on the Chaski RR forum where someone visited this museum and I took a look at it on Google Earth.

[MossRoad]

OH, Newark, RH foundation Visible 1994
40° 3'25.99"N  82°23'29.94"W

http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=40.0558&lon=-82.39240&z=16

[MossRoad]

OH, Orrville, RH Location visible 2012
 40°50'18.66"N  81°46'10.36"W

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMPYM4_Union_Depot_Orrville_Ohio

[Semper Vaporo]

As of this morning, Dec 3, 2016 11:25 AM CST it seems SOME access to my webspace has been restored and I have uploaded the latest updates to the files.

I have compressed all 5 files into one ZIP file so MAYBE everybody can download them all in one swell foop.

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/RR%20Roundhouses.zip

That should get you all 5 files at once for you to Un-ZIP.

 

Here are links to the individual files:

Excel file of all the data: 

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/Roundhouse%20and%20Turntables.xls 

PDF of the Non-U.S. locations:

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/Non%20US%20Roundhouses%20and%20Turntables.pdf 

KMZ of the Non-U.S. locations: 

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/Non-U.S.%20RR%20Roundhouses.kmz 

PDF of the U.S. locations: 

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/US%20Roundhouses%20and%20Turntables.pdf 

KMZ of the U.S. locations:

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/U.S.%20RR%20Roundhouses.kmz

 

I'd sure like to know if anybody can download any of the files to know if the access to the webspace has been fully restored.

 

 

[Semper Vaporo]

I can't get to the .KMZ files, but I can download the .ZIP file and they are included in it, so everybody should be able to get all 5 files that way.  I may give up on uploading the individual files, unless someone really wants me to keep trying to do so.  All are available in the "RR Roundhouses.zip" file.

[MidlandMike]

I can download the PDF for US, but not the KMZ.

[Semper Vaporo]

It seems the web space site I use was set up for photos, text and .ZIP files only.  Although I can upload and download any file type when I am logged-in as me, nobody can access files that don't have the appropriate filename extension... anything else gets filtered out.  I have sent a comment to the powers that be so see if I can get .KMZ files enabled... (don't hold yer breath!)

I may try to rename them to something like ".TXT" so they can be downloaded, and then instruct everybody to change the extension back to ".KMZ" to use them... not sure if that will work, but I'll try it sometime.

 

[MossRoad]

OH, Newark, RH foundation V 1994
 40° 3'25.99"N  82°23'29.94"W

[MossRoad]

PA, Johnstown, TT and RH foundations
 40°20'43.51"N  78°53'0.46"W

http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=40.3449&lon=-78.88229&z=16

[MossRoad]

PA, Blairsville, TT and RH foundations
40°26'0.42"N  79°15'40.98"W

http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=40.4337&lon=-79.26065&z=16

[SANTIAGO GONZALEZ ESTRADA]

Buenas tardes amigo. Le informo de un puente giratorio (turntable) existente en Asturias (España). Es el único que queda en la provincia y ya no tiene conexión con la vía (viá métrica). Puedo ofrecerle las coordenadas o pasarle directamente el enlace al Google-earth. Santiago (Asturias - Spain)

[SANTIAGO GONZALEZ ESTRADA]

Service of this turntable beguins on 13. nov. 1891. Raliroad: Ferrocarriles Económicos de Asturias. Gauge: metre. 43º 21´04.23" N - 5º 22´00.46 W H. of placement: 153 m. over sea level. Actually is disconected from track.

[Semper Vaporo]

I find what appears to be a turntable at:

 43°21'4.77"N   5°22'2.67"W

But the nearest city/town name is either Las Tercias (.3 KM to the east) or Infiesto (0.5 KM to the southeast).  Asturias is nearly 40KM to the west.

Presently, I have added it to my list as Las Tercias... is that correct?

[SANTIAGO GONZALEZ ESTRADA]

Infiesto - Asturias - Spain is at 43º 20´49.70" N 5º 21´46.88 W in Google Earth. "Las Tercias" is a little hamlet near Infiesto. Put you Infiesto coord. Find two icons, ittle blue simbol front of a RDC (simil). One marks "Infiesto apeadero" at southeast (SE) and other at NW "Infiesto estación" (Infiesto railroad depot). Follow railroad track from the SE to NW. The turntable is al right side of main building.

[SANTIAGO GONZALEZ ESTRADA]

The turntable is pointed with a yellow punch.

[Semper Vaporo]

I managed to get FTP access to my web-space and have uploaded all the files again with everything added recently (both U.S. and non-U.S.  Thanks to the people that have added to the lists!)

As a test, I downloaded the .ZIP file using the link below to get all the data files... at least I was able to download that file, but considering how crazy stuff is running right now, I don't know if anybody else can do so.

 

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/RR%20Roundhouses.zip

That should get you all 5 files at once for you to Un-ZIP and keep the files you want.

If anyone tries to get the file, please report here whether or not it works for you.

 

[MidlandMike]

I tried to link to the US KMZ file seperatly, and it still won't load.

[Semper Vaporo]

Try one of these:

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/Non-U.S.%20RR%20Roundhouses.kmz.txt 

or

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/U.S.%20RR%20Roundhouses.kmz.txt

 

If you can download the file, you will need to delete the ".txt" from the end of the filename on your computer.

 

Edit: It worked for me!!!!

After you rename the file, run Google Earth and either double click on the file name or click and drag it to the "My Places" folder in the "Places" box on the left side of the G.E. window.  (If you double click the file name it will get added to the Temporary Places folder and you will need to drag it to the "My Places" folder.)

 

[MidlandMike]

I downloaded the US KMZ file, but Windows 10 File Explorer does not give me the option to make changes to the file extension in the renaming function.

[Semper Vaporo]

This is probably a combination of "file ownership" and "User rights" issues.  You probably are not logged in as an "Administrator" (even though it may say you are... there are at least 2 levels of "administrator"... the real one and the usual one... as well as the "User" level which has much more restrictions on it).  There are ways to take ownership of a file (even at the User level), but they are long and complicated.

If you are up to it, you might try downloading it to your Documents folder (instead of the "Downloads" folder) and rename it as part of the download.

When you click on the link to download the file you "should" get a box at the bottom asking what you want to do... "Open", "Save" or "Cancel".  The "Save" button will have a downward pointing arrow (diamond?) sort of attached to the right side.  Click that arrow and you will get a list to select from: "Save", "Save As" or "Save and open".

Click the "Save as" option.  This will bring up a dialog box of where to save the file.  Use your usual methods of selecting a place that you "own" to store the file (such as a subfolder of your "Documents" folder [don't try to use the old "My Documents" folder, that folder really no longer exists and you can't get to it... it is only there so programs that are coded to store things there can still work in Windows 10].  MS changed the name of the user's working folder to just "Documents" in Winders 10... I think just to confuse us humans!).

Near the bottom of that box will be the name of the file and the whole line will be highlighted... click on that line and then press the "End" key on the keyboard to put the cursor at the end... then press the "Backspace" key 4 times to delete the ".txt" on the end.  (You have to click in that line first or you might delete the whole name from the box when you hit the Backspace key and then have to retype the name.)

See if that works for you.  If not, I have a couple of other ideas that might help you.  Because it works for me, it is hard to troubleshoot it without my hands on the keyboard, guessing things to try!

[MidlandMike]

When I click on the downloaded file box at the bottom, it gives me the options: Open, Show in folder, Cancel.  "Show in folder" just takes me to File Explorer.  I have not really gotten into KMZ files, and for now I am happy with your Excel (?) list of roundhouses that I can easily link to.

[MossRoad]

NC, Bryson City, TT at Great Smokey Mnt Railway
This appears to be new construction. Nice!
 35°25'45.41"N  83°26'54.65"W

[MossRoad]

SC, Greenville, TT location visible (I think I'd like to see it there, hahaha, but you be the judge)1994
 34°51'30.23"N  82°24'52.86"W

topo link: http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=34.8573&lon=-82.41483&z=16

[Semper Vaporo]

Added them both... the TOPO map clinches the location of the TT in Greenville... will upload the files later.

Question for anyone that might know...

To the north-northeast of the Greenville, SC TT site there is a rectangular shape on the ground that seems to be surrounded by a tall fence.  It is in-line with where the track from the turntable was.  I am guessing the shape is about the size of one RR hopper car.  Is it possibly a scale?

 

[MossRoad]

Not sure what you're looking at. Do you have coordinates for it?

[MossRoad]

NE, Sidney, RH foundation visible 2013
 41° 8'49.98"N 102°58'27.87"W

[Semper Vaporo]

MossRoad

Not sure what you're looking at. Do you have coordinates for it?

The structure(?) is centered at 34°51'31.60"N  82°24'53.86"W... sort of at an angle  (NNW to SSE).  Look back through history to see the fence (and the shadow of it) around area.