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[quote user="Phoebe Vet"] [quote user="Murray"] There is nothing either instrusive or improper about showing an official identification when asked by proper authority. If its good enough for our conservative friends in Arizona to legislate and implement its use, then its certainly good enough for the rest of the country. [/quote] Maybe you and your conservative friends in Arizona don't mind living in a society where everyone must carry and produce on demand a government approved, background investigated, national ID, but those of us who grew up in a free country are offended.  There is a mountain of case law from less paranoid days that says the government needs to show cause before intruding into your life.  In the past, courts have even ruled that there is no such thing as a routine traffic stop.  A police Officer must be able to show cause why he stopped a vehicle.  The creeping paranoia of the last ten years is eroding your rights and you don't even seem to care. So far, Amtrak is still treating it's passengers like valued customers, while the airlines are treating their passengers like everyone is a criminal. [/quote] Well quite frankly you can maintain your "bunker mentality" if you so choose. The reality is life as we know it will continue as normal despite your ramblings of paranoia and so-called "loss of freedom."
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