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<DIV> <P><STRONG>richhotrain</STRONG> wrote: After further researching the genealogy of the predecessor railroads, the Pittsburgh, Fort Wayne & Chicago Railway and the Chicago, Madison & Northern Railroad, which are identified by name in the title to this track diagram, I would place the date of this diagram between 1903 and 1918.</P> <P>Can anybody give a more precise date?</P> <P>Not sure how you reached those dates. The IC had the spline completed to Freeport, Illinois, and on to Dubuque and Fort Doge, Iowa, in 1870. The 1870 Guide shows no line from Freeport to either Madison or Chicago. The C&NW has a line from Rockford to Chicago, though. No mention of a CM&N in the index.</P> <P>The June 1897 Guide shows the IC has lines from Freeport to both Madison and Chicago, and the Iowa line extending to Omaha. No mention of a CM&N in the index of railroads nor in the "Old and New Name" section.</P> <P>The February 1901 Guide lists Chicago Madison & Northern as an old name with Illinois Central as the new name.</P> <P>Perusing the IC entries in the 1897 Guide shows a Train #1 heading from Chicago to Cairo and another Train #1 heading from Chicago to Freeport at a much different time. It would seem that the CM&N was deleted from the list of railroads but hadn't yet been included in the new/old name section. And the IC was still struggling with train numbers.</P> <P>My 1916 Guide shows that the Pennsylvania Railroad was still showing "Lines West of Pittsburgh" separately from those east. The various trains are each listed under separate names, such as "Pittsburgh Fort Wayne & Chicago", Erie and Pittsburgh", "Pittsburgh Cincinatti Chicago & St Louis" (The Panhandle), and "Vandalia Railroad". However, these names are not in the list of railroads nor in the old/new section.</P> <P>As a side note, the Panhandle initially entered Union Passenger Depot from the north and had a station at Western and Madison for local commuter trains. The Milwaukee and the Panhandle shared trackage from Western to the depot. The Panhandle was absobed by the Pennsy, and some time later started using the south entry into Union.</P> <P>Old names last a long time. Auto maps attest to that!</P> <P>Art</P></DIV>
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