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<P mce_keep="true">[quote user="Falcon48"] <P>[quote user="Bucyrus"] <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2>But again, going back to a question I asked earlier, who is at fault for this crash under the Illinois law?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The way I read the law, the driver has to be at fault.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But to many, it must appear that the railroad is at fault for allowing its automatic warning system to fail.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I really would like to know the answer.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It often seems so clear-cut who is at fault in grade crossing crashes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yet, in this case, the posters do not seem to agree.</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></P> <P>[/quote] I'm having some trouble understanding why there is so much disagreement. I have a fair amount of experience in grade crossing accident issues, and I can guarantee you that, where there is a grade crossing accident due to an "activation failure" of grade crossing warning signals, the railroad is going to end up buying the store. That is particularly the case where railroad maintenance personnel created the condition, which may be what happened here. That tells you what the law really is. I can't imagine a judge or jury - in Illinois or anywhere else - deciding that a railroad can avoid liability for this kind of accident because the motorist didn't look for a train, even though the grade crossing signals weren't activated. You can argue about snippets of language from the statute all you want, but this is the reality. I would venture to say that no one involved who has actually been involved in grade crossing accident litigation would dispute this. [/quote]</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>I have no idea what a judge or jury would decide in this Amtrak crash where the signals failed to activate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I understand that you have experience in this area, and you may be entirely correct about what a judge and jury would decide in such a case.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But the following language of the law does conflict with your conclusion: </FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=3><STRONG><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><FONT color=#3399ff>“The person [driver] must exercise due care and caution as the existence of a railroad track across a highway is a warning of danger.”</FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>Clearly, this sentence refers to signalized crossings when the signals are clear to traffic.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, I do find it to be oddly worded and overly general.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Other language of the law strips the default yield requirement from the crossbucks at signalized crossings, and the law replaces it with the above sentence that vaguely requires due care and caution.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>I find this issue of what drivers are supposed to do when crossing an un-activated, signalized crossing to be the most interesting aspect of the overall grade crossing safety.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>People who respect or like trains will always tell you that they look for trains at un-activated, signalized crossings rather than just relying on the signals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But do they really?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is one thing to say it, but another thing to actually do it. </FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2>I believe that the industry would rather water down the issue of why drivers need to look for trains approaching un-activated, signalized crossings rather than admit that the reason to look for trains in such circumstances is that the signals can fail to activate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As further evidence of this, I have noticed that people in the industry will give you what apparently is the “company line” by telling you that the signals cannot fail because they are “fail safe,” However, we know that is a faulty premise.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
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