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Southern 4610
Posted by Train Guy 3 on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:52 PM
I saw the repainted Southern 4610 rolling down the track today. Heading east to Lambert's Point on the Ex-Virginian line. That green paint still looks pretty glossly for being on a coal train.

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Posted by athelney on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:11 AM
For the guy's up in Canada -- what is Southern 2610??
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Posted by Kozzie on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

For the guy's up in Canada -- what is Southern 2610??


James

It isn't a 2-8-0 is it? Or am I right out of the ball park?

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Posted by Nora on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:23 AM
Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457
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Posted by athelney on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:26 AM
Thanks Nora -that kind of puts things in perspective -- now we understand -- I think!!!!!!
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Posted by Kozzie on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457


Oh! [:0][:I][:I] And here I was, thinking it was a steamer! ha ha [:)] [:I]

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Posted by wabash1 on Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:13 AM
the only 2610 on the ns right now is a new sd70.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:30 PM
Yeah, the 2610 is an SD70M. The 4610 is a GP59[;)]
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Posted by Train Guy 3 on Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457


Ahhh stupid me. [#oops] I did mean 4610. I clearly have written in my notes " SOU 4610 - 5:58 Dogwood." I dont have a clue what made me use a "2" instead of a "4". Those mesquites must have took much blood the other night.

Thank you Nora for catching my error.

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Posted by athelney on Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457


Ahhh stupid me. [#oops] I did mean 4610. I clearly have written in my notes " SOU 4610 - 5:58 Dogwood." I dont have a clue what made me use a "2" instead of a "4". Those mesquites must have took much blood the other night.

Thank you Nora for catching my error.


You just had us Canadians totally confused - the only Southern up here is Southern Railway of BC - they don't have a 2610 or 4610 . Thanks for putting things straight.
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Posted by Train Guy 3 on Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457


Ahhh stupid me. [#oops] I did mean 4610. I clearly have written in my notes " SOU 4610 - 5:58 Dogwood." I dont have a clue what made me use a "2" instead of a "4". Those mesquites must have took much blood the other night.

Thank you Nora for catching my error.


You just had us Canadians totally confused - the only Southern up here is Southern Railway of BC - they don't have a 2610 or 4610 . Thanks for putting things straight.


Yea sorry about that, but it's all a learning experience. I've learned more about Canada and Canadians from this forum than from having a teacher from Canada. Always been interested with my neighbors to the north.

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Posted by athelney on Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457


Ahhh stupid me. [#oops] I did mean 4610. I clearly have written in my notes " SOU 4610 - 5:58 Dogwood." I dont have a clue what made me use a "2" instead of a "4". Those mesquites must have took much blood the other night.

Thank you Nora for catching my error.


You just had us Canadians totally confused - the only Southern up here is Southern Railway of BC - they don't have a 2610 or 4610 . Thanks for putting things straight.


Yea sorry about that, but it's all a learning experience. I've learned more about Canada and Canadians from this forum than from having a teacher from Canada. Always been interested with my neighbors to the north.


Hey we all goof up --eh!! But anyway our stuff is like your stuff ( loco's etc ) except the tag on it says " made in Canada" .
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Posted by Isambard on Friday, July 23, 2004 3:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457


Ahhh stupid me. [#oops] I did mean 4610. I clearly have written in my notes " SOU 4610 - 5:58 Dogwood." I dont have a clue what made me use a "2" instead of a "4". Those mesquites must have took much blood the other night.

Thank you Nora for catching my error.


You just had us Canadians totally confused - the only Southern up here is Southern Railway of BC - they don't have a 2610 or 4610 . Thanks for putting things straight.


Yea sorry about that, but it's all a learning experience. I've learned more about Canada and Canadians from this forum than from having a teacher from Canada. Always been interested with my neighbors to the north.


Hey we all goof up --eh!! But anyway our stuff is like your stuff ( loco's etc ) except the tag on it says " made in Canada" .


Adding to Athelney's comment that your stuff looks like our stuff except "made in Canada, some of your (American) stuff is also made in Canada. Have a look at brand new UP SD70M #3819 for an example, at :
http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=58b339366d5836b87104511822748a54&threadid=17487

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Posted by locomutt on Friday, July 23, 2004 5:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

Thanks Nora -that kind of puts things in perspective -- now we understand -- I think!!!!!!


Thanks for the link ,Nora
Brian (louisnash) was kind enough to send me a pic of it from before

And I copied the one from the link you gave, looks like a lighter shade of green.[:)]

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Posted by locomutt on Friday, July 23, 2004 5:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard

QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by athelney

QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Do you mean 4610? That, as I understand it, is a Southern locomotive that NS has recently repainted (still in its old colors). I've never seen it, but here is a link to a picture of it....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=28457


I checked that link out,and those are some great shots.
Thanks for the link.[:)]

Ahhh stupid me. [#oops] I did mean 4610. I clearly have written in my notes " SOU 4610 - 5:58 Dogwood." I dont have a clue what made me use a "2" instead of a "4". Those mesquites must have took much blood the other night.

Thank you Nora for catching my error.


You just had us Canadians totally confused - the only Southern up here is Southern Railway of BC - they don't have a 2610 or 4610 . Thanks for putting things straight.


Yea sorry about that, but it's all a learning experience. I've learned more about Canada and Canadians from this forum than from having a teacher from Canada. Always been interested with my neighbors to the north.


Hey we all goof up --eh!! But anyway our stuff is like your stuff ( loco's etc ) except the tag on it says " made in Canada" .


Adding to Athelney's comment that your stuff looks like our stuff except "made in Canada, some of your (American) stuff is also made in Canada. Have a look at brand new UP SD70M #3819 for an example, at :
http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=58b339366d5836b87104511822748a54&threadid=17487

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Posted by louisnash on Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:18 PM
Go to Railpictures.net and search under "Kentucky" and you will see all the photos taken of the Southern 4610 in Lawrenceburg and in the Louisville area over the last 2 or 3 months.

There are some great photos of it on this website.

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:29 PM
Does it still have the plaque at the rear talking about the southern railroad engineers?

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:13 PM
I have yet to see the thing (the 4610), I've heard its only been in the northeast once, not 100% sure if its true, I wish NS would do N&W and CR engines, NS did have the 2943 (Sprit of Conrail GP38) but its on the dead line in Enola.
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Posted by Train900 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:53 AM
Question. Why is it still painted in Southern Colors?
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Posted by Train Guy 3 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Train900

Question. Why is it still painted in Southern Colors?


NS had it repainted.

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Posted by Allen Jenkins on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:07 AM
Here's a link that explains it all. http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16634 .The last update to that thread was June 4th. It's been a minute since I checked it out, so thanks MR. Train Guy 3, for the update! ACJ.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:18 AM
Southern never even owned GP59's, or any other low nose loco for that matter but I think it looks great.
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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:21 AM
if southern never owned a low nose engine then what was the last engine that southern owned ?
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Posted by garr on Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:44 AM
wabash1,

The last Southern diesels delivered in the "tuxedo" SR paint scheme were:

1. GE-the B30-7A1( A1=high capacity extended range dynamic braking) 3500-3521 5/82

2. EMD-road unit- GP50 7073-7092 5/81

3. EMD-switcher- MP15 2430-2435 5/82

Both the B30-7A1's and the GP50's had high short hoods, as did all SR road units. The SR even went so far as adding high hoods to low hood locomotives it acquired in mergers or acquisitions, i.e. the original Norfolk Southern GP 18's and GP 38's.

All locomotives went to the new Norfolk Southern on 6/1/82. Low hood units were delivered to NS with SOU sublettering but none of these were original SR "tuxedo" painted units. The 4610 is the only low hood unit to wear a variant of the SR "tuxedo" scheme, however it was delivered well into the NS era.

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