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Amtrak Accident - Non-Working Crossing Signals
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<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2>Falcon48,</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2>You may be correct that a crossbuck does not mean yield when it is applied to a signalized crossing anywhere in the U.S., or that may only be the case in Illinois.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>While the FRA may not have the authority to interpret or enforce state law, they have done so per my inquiry to them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They may be incorrect in their response to me.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Somewhere here I have an email from Operation Lifesaver confirming what the FRA said.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2>I have found several references indicating that a crossbuck means the same thing as a YIELD sign.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>According to the language of the Illinois law, that requirement to yield per the meaning of a crossbuck is apparently suspended at signalized crossings.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I do not know if that is the case with other states.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, if the meaning of a crossbuck is not intended to apply at signalized crossings, I wonder why crossbucks are installed at signalized crossings.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2>In an above post, you said:</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2>“Second, if crossbucks at signalized crossings were meant to indicate "yield", one would expect that highway authorities would be posting "yield" signs at these crossings, the same as they have beene doing at non-signalized crossbuck crossings. Now, perhaps there is a signalized crossing somewhere with a "yield" sign, but I haven't seen it.”</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2>I agree that if YIELD signs are being applied to passive crossings because it has been discovered that drivers do not realize that a crossbuck means yield, it follows that YIELD signs should be applied to active crossings to clarify the meaning of the crossbucks at those active crossings.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When I asked the MN DOT that question, I was told that YIELD signs are not needed at signalized crossings because the signals protect the crossings and those signals are infallible.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But of course, the signals can fail to activate, so the reasoning about why a YIELD sign would not be needed at active crossings does not hold up.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2>Maybe all states have laws that override the meaning of crossbucks at active crossings, and such crossbucks are only added as encouragement to be careful, but have no legal authority.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2>In any case, it does seem completely counter-intuitive to suggest that drivers should look for trains when the signals at active crossings are in-activated.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It would be wise to do so because the signals can fail to activate, but if drivers are told to yield at signalized crossings because the signals can fail, spreading that knowledge might lead to even more claims of signals failing to activate in the wake of crossing crashes.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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