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<P mce_keep="true">[quote user="Murphy Siding"] <P>[quote user="Bucyrus"] <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=georgia,palatino><FONT size=3>I just called the FRA and got the answer to the question.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=georgia,palatino><FONT size=3><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=georgia,palatino><FONT size=3><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN><FONT color=#cc3300><STRONG><U>The answer:</U></STRONG></FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=georgia,palatino><FONT size=3>An engineer must be able to know where he is in order to run the train.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=georgia,palatino></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=georgia,palatino>Therefore, in a fog condition of zero visibility, where the fog is so thick that an engineer cannot see beyond the window glass, the engineer cannot move the train.</FONT></SPAN></P> <P>[/quote]<BR><BR> You're right. <FONT color=#0066ff>You've just proved what the railroaders who have responded to this thread have been telling you.</FONT> An engineer must be able to know where he is in order to run the train. As both wabash1 and Zugmann have pointed out, knowing where you are, and being able to see long distances down the track are two entirely different things.[/quote]</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>I disagree that there has been any consensus here on this question. Go back and read this thread.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I clearly stated my question in post #6.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Responses have been all over the map, mainly rejecting the possibility that fog could be sufficient to make running impossible, although a few have indeed said that you can't run if you don't know where you are, confirming what the FRA said.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN>Others, however, have contended that trains can run full speed in zero visibility as if they were airplanes running on instruments.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And then you suggested my question is moot because if it is so foggy you can’t see, you can’t drive to work anyway.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What if it is not foggy going to work, and then turns foggy after work begins?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>Many, including Wabash, have responded to my zero-visibility question as though they could see despite having zero visibility. Wabash then made a blanket statement suggesting that fog simply does not matter by saying: </FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva><FONT size=2><FONT color=#cc6633><STRONG>“it wont matter how fast you want us to go we are just as efficient in fog as we are on a clear day, ( or at least i am)”</STRONG></FONT> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
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