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[quote user="schlimm"][quote user="CopCarSS"] [quote user="Bucyrus"]...it will be constantly adjusted by the Central Bureau of Tolling. [/quote] Just what we need, another government agency. Especially one that I'm sure will be a paradigm of efficiency. Can we put a toll czar in charge of it? [/quote]  Perhaps you do or you don't understand that Bucyrus doesn't really favor the proposals he puts forth. They are "strawman" arguments, meaning he sets up a ridiculous idea that is easy to either shoot down or will frighten the undecided about HSR and other rail improvements.[/quote] Mr. Berthold,   You are correct that I am not advocating this automatic, universal toll road proposal (UTR).  But, make no mistake, it is right around the corner.  And I am certainly not using it to make a straw man in order to scare people away from HSR.  If they are to be scared of anything, they ought to be scared of the UTR concept itself because it represents an abrupt end of the freedom of driving as we know it.   <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> There is no reason to use the UTR proposal to scare people away from HSR.  This is because, while UTR may be a way to drive people into using HSR and fund HSR in the short term, in the long term, it will make HSR obsolete.  It will also make LRT obsolete.     It is easy just to call something you reject a straw man argument rather than to offer a convincing rebuttal.
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