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[quote user="schlimm"] [quote user="Bucyrus"] There is one more component needed to make passenger rail become the preferred national method of travel.  That is a high tax on gasoline, coupled with high tolls on every road.  It will kill two birds with one stone by getting people out of their cars and into the trains; and it will pay for the trains.  There is no need to wait for the public attitude to change when you can just use force. [/quote] This is a straw man argument designed to make others think that forced toll roads and gasoline taxes are the method of payment.  As long as you are up to using these rhetorical devices, I see no valid reason to respond to your postings.  You have made it abundantly clear you oppose HSR, etc. [/quote] Rhetorical devices?  Straw man argument?  Getting travelers off of the roads is one of the stated objectives for HSR.  Encouraging reduced consumption of oil by taxing motor fuels is also a commonly proposed public policy objective.  The FRA is on the record as stating that the purpose of HSR is as follows: <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> 1)      To reduce CO2 by six billion pounds. 2)      To create new jobs. 3)      To offer a new choice for travelers. 4)      To reduce the dependency on oil. 5)      To foster urban and rural communities. <o:p></o:p> I don’t believe that HSR will go very far in fulfilling the stated objective to get people out of their cars.  So raising the cost of driving will be needed to do the trick.  HSR is the carrot.  High gas taxes will be the stick.  If you look into the grass roots HSR boosterism, you find this to be one of their commonly stated ideas.  I do agree that it is pretty spooky.
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