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<P mce_keep="true">[quote user="Paul_D_North_Jr"] <P>Why wouldn't the government also take similar adverse action on the use of oil = diesel fuel for the conventional locomotives, which would further increase the price of oil, and rebalance the scales <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">? Diesel fuel/ oil has a substantial carbon content, too. Meanwhile, the world's petroleum prices keep on rising . . . . </SPAN></P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">I'm no expert on this, but my 'naive' opinion/ thought is that a carbon tax or 'cap and trade' kind of program, etc. will 'raise all boats' / costs more or less equally. I dont see where that would fatally disadvantage electric production - mostly coal - with respect to diesel fuel locomotives. Actually, if such programs are fairly implemented - a big 'if', I concede - the railroad ought to get a substantial credit for the carbon emissions that are saved or forgone by eliminating the diesel locomotives, correct <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">? So perhaps that impact will be more or less neutral.</SPAN></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Other opinions and more informed insights and correction, etc. are welcomed.</SPAN></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">- Paul North.</SPAN></SPAN></P> <P>[/quote]</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>There certainly are a lot of tentacles to this carbon issue.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a way, carbon taxes do raise all boats, but the core objective is to reduce CO2.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, while diesel and coal both produce CO2, it might be more cost effective to reduce CO2 at the power plants rather than onboard each diesel locomotive—depending on the cost of new electric locomotives or new dual mode locomotives, and the cost of electrification, either at once or incrementally.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So electrification to avoid carbon taxes may be more cost effective than sticking with diesel and higher carbon taxes, even though both fuels produce CO2.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>As I understand it, the EPA announced yesterday that CO2 is a health risk, and that they will take measures to curtail CO2 emissions, based on their power to do so, which flows from the supreme court decision a couple years ago that decided that the EPA had the authority to regulate CO2.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, under this scenario, the EPA will simply make the rules.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>However, congress can pass an energy bill that would take precedence over the will of the EPA.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The administration would like a climate/energy bill to take to the Copenhagen meeting that would give the president the authority to sign onto the new world agreement.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Without such a bill from congress that basically approves our entry into the new treaty, the president cannot sign on unilaterally.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>Congress is now between a rock and a hard place.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>On one hand, they would like to have a say in shaping the world agreement by imposing their own set of criteria in the form of an energy bill, so they will delay until the Copenhagen summit has passed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But on the other hand, if congress delays too long, the EPA will simply impose what the Copenhagen treaty would require if the president were to sign it.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>Senator Byrd is urging congress to quickly pass an energy bill in order to prevent the EPA from destroying the coal industry in his state, which the EPA would do if they move forward on their own:</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><A href="http://www.wvnstv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=71553"><FONT face=verdana,geneva color=#800080 size=2>http://www.wvnstv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=71553</FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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