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[quote user="beaulieu"] [quote user="greyhounds"]  It presented false information as unchallenged fact.  (i.e. It could create 175 million jobs, it could divert 83% of the truck traffic to rail.)  This is garbage. [/quote]   Pardon the minor cut and paste job, the above I agree with you completely. [quote] It failed to deal with major issues, such as "where does the electricity come frome?" [/quote]  My question to you about the above part is this, where will the oil come from to make the diesel fuel in 20 years? The oil companies have been able to find it so far, but there are no more guarantees than the ability to make sufficient electricity. The only reasonable way to make diesel fuel is from mineral oil extracted from the ground, converting coal or natural gas isn't economically viable with any technology known at the present. It is straight forward to produce electricity from either of those sources as well as others. Trying to build a new powerplant is no harder than trying to build a new refinery. And as to the person who says what will happen if a powerplant goes down will the public demand first call on the available power ahead of the railroad? What happens if a refinery goes down, will the public be any more reasonable? [/quote]   I think they will be able to find adequate oil supplies for a lot longer than 20 more years.  In my opinion, a lot of the impetus behind the so-called peak oil theories and the supposed crisis of quickly running out of oil are part of an anti-fossil fuel agenda.  In other words, they are creating a false crisis that we are almost out of oil, which is intended to force us to give up hope for continued oil use, thereby moving us away from oil and into renewables as fast as possible.    But even if oil only has another 20 years, the roadblock to coal is right here and now.  Maybe an exception to that roadblock could somehow be carved out for the exclusive electric application of railroad traction, or maybe the roadblock will be lifted with changing politics, but otherwise, there is no way the necessary power will be available.  It is a non-starter today.
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