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Nice shot
Very nice!
I have to disagree about the sun, though - although the picture is fantastic as it is (and worth of any wall), with bright sun and a few puffy clouds in an azure sky, it would have been positively stunning.
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Wonderful !! Thanks for sharing.
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Nice shot...but...
The saturation just seems way over the top to me. Then again, I was always the guy that avoided Velvia back in my film days, too. So, I guess it's just a personal preference kind of thing.
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A beautiful and green train. I like the ES44AC in there! Awesome shot!
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Ah yes. One can't get through winter without seeing at least one (and usually several) over-saturated Matthew Hicks shot! Winter must be coming to a close...
Still a neat shot though Matt, I like it.
On a 1-10 scale I would rate it a 9.9 as in really darn good photo. I count 51 cars that I can see. 2 towards the back blocked by trees. More past that I can't see.
Modeling the "Fargo Area Rapid Transit" in O scale 3 rail.
Noah Hofrichter Ah yes. One can't get through winter without seeing at least one (and usually several) over-saturated Matthew Hicks shot! Winter must be coming to a close... Still a neat shot though Matt, I like it.
So what's wrong with some over-saturation? The real world is usually so incredibly dull that it needs all the help it can get.
And Chris, I was a huge believer in Velvia; indeed, once I discovered it, it was all I ever shot. I LOVE the saturation. And now, thanks to digital, I can have all the saturation I can tolerate.
Great shot, Matt!!!
I don't mind a little bit of saturation to brighten things up, but to me a railroad photo should be a documentation of reality. When the saturation gets to the point where the scene (or in this case the CP red) looks unreal, then I consider that over saturated. I live near the CP line through Wisconsin, and I don't think I've seen a CP locomotive quite that bright of red before, especially on a cloudy day...
It doesn't make me dislike the picture, it's just a different taste and style of processing. Like I said before, I still like Matt's shot quite a bit. I wish I lived in scenery like that...
Noah
Looks like one of "Leanin' Tree"'s Howard Fogg train Christmas card paintings to me, what with that vivid red and all the white and green in the background. (Maybe you could sell the image to them ? )
But how is this different from a painting where the artist chose to use really bright pigments ? Should railroad photography be limited to "reality", or can the photographer have the liberty to use the image as a base, and then to create the effect he/ she wants ? We couldn't do that until recently - now, with digital cameras and Photoshop post-processing, we can. Cameras are now just another art medium. That's great, as long as we are all informed that's what's been done so that no one is misled or put unwittingly into a unfair competitive or judging situation, etc.
I recognize what it is, and I like it just fine for that, even if it is a little bit "unreal". Thanks for sharing !
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I certainly don't think it's out of the realm of creativity to play with a photo in post-processing. If we all shot the same way, photography would be kind of dull. All I'm saying is that the super saturation like this is definately not to my taste. But, if it pleases the photog, it's cool by me. It seems to have some followers here, too. Like I said...just not my thing is all.
Mmm, a standard discussion about one of my photos.
"I hate it! It's NOTHING like real life!""I like it, it's PRETTY!"
"I don't really give a crap either way."
In no particular order...
Thanks for the comments, guys!
Do I see a touch of Topaz? No matter, it's a great shot and maybe everything is just brighter in the Canadian Rockies. Keep these shots coming!
I like it. I like the saturation. So what if it's turned up -- who among us can say that the photographer did not see it that way? Photography is not realism, any more than oil paint on canvas is realism. There are so many artifacts inherent in the process -- including the decision of the photographer to point his camera in one direction and not another -- that "realism" is simply not there. It's "pretty real" but if we want actual realism, than we'd better go stand there for ourselves.
Ever here of the Lewis Carroll essay that touched on map-making? The point is, if it isn't inaccurate, it isn't any use. A perfect representation would be "standing there," and since I can't stand there, I want a photo, and I want a photo that captures the impact (emotion, wonder, awe, pleasure) of being there, and for me, turning up the saturation to gain what the eye would see if the eye looked only at the locomotive and not at the whole scene, is perfectly fine.
Here's an excerpt http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/geog/gessler/topics/lewis-carroll.htm
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Good to see choo-choos and mountains, just one question, there is a spot 5.5km west of Banff at the turnoff from the Trans-Canada Highway to highway 1a, there is a spot towards the river that is identical to Morant's curve, in fact I'm sure more photos have been taken here of trains than at Morant's curve. In fact Nick took a great deal of photos from this vantage spot, so many, a lot of people get confused as to which really is Morant's curve. Some "Morant Curve" photos show the river curving to the right, others to the left and different mountains in the background(obviously from the opposite direction)
So the next time you see a photo of a train on a curve in the Rockies, keep this in mind.
A little realism from Claude Monet once he got past platform security in Paris.
tatansGood to see choo-choos and mountains, just one question, there is a spot 5.5km west of Banff at the turnoff from the Trans-Canada Highway to highway 1a, there is a spot towards the river that is identical to Morant's curve, in fact I'm sure more photos have been taken here of trains than at Morant's curve. In fact Nick took a great deal of photos from this vantage spot, so many, a lot of people get confused as to which really is Morant's curve. Some "Morant Curve" photos show the river curving to the right, others to the left and different mountains in the background(obviously from the opposite direction) So the next time you see a photo of a train on a curve in the Rockies, keep this in mind.
...I don't know what the hell you're talking about, and I probably know the mainline between Ozada and Field better than anyone on this forum...
OOOOooooh a little anger management needed here, Now calmly sit down and read my note again, this time try to absorb the words, do you see where I indicate a comparison of the 2 areas, try google maps, try Bruno Englers photos along with Nicholas Morant's publications of photos in this region, go to the Banff Historical Society for more information, does your collection of Morant's photos include a shot of the aforementiond area by the highway 1a turnoff? Are you employed by the C.P.R. to explore the right of way along this scenic area, where does all this"better than anyone on this forum" knowledge come from?
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Well, I like the saturation,it cuts that otherwise dull gray sky !
Thanks for sharing...
bobwilcox A little realism from Claude Monet once he got past platform security in Paris.
HA ! Good one Bob !
tatansOOOOooooh a little anger management needed here, Now calmly sit down and read my note again, this time try to absorb the words, do you see where I indicate a comparison of the 2 areas, try google maps, try Bruno Englers photos along with Nicholas Morant's publications of photos in this region, go to the Banff Historical Society for more information, does your collection of Morant's photos include a shot of the aforementiond area by the highway 1a turnoff? Are you employed by the C.P.R. to explore the right of way along this scenic area, where does all this"better than anyone on this forum" knowledge come from?
I'm a teenager, just because I'm swearing doesn't mean I'm not calm...
Anyways, I can't think OTOH more than 3 or 4 photos I've seen from the 1A turnoff total. In fact, I frequently pass by there and it doesn't even have a passing resemblance to Morant's...pics to prove it.
Mine, from a couple weeks ago: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/trainboysd40/9839Mile871-1.jpg
Not mine, but shows the scene better:http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=215667
The only other spot that you might be thinking of near there is at MP 88, but I don't think I've ever seen a photo from there.
...wait...are you talking about mile 100? It's about 15 miles away from the 1A junction, I guess you're thinking of the 93 junction?
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=193528
Nice photos, wrong area. O.K. let's start again. On the C.P.R. rail line westward, go 3 MILES west to the intersection of the TCH and highway 1a, (do not go any further) the tracks go under the highway at this point, about 1000 feet northwest of this point is sloped bank above the tracks looking NW along the tracks and the Bow river, the tracks curve as does the river , I can't tell you how many railfans use this spot for photos, the Bow river, the tracks, the trains and the mountain background are perfect, again, this location is at the south end of highway 1a not anywhere up the roads to Lake Louise nor anywhere near highway 93 turnoff, you can walk easily from Banff to this spot.......end
I'll take any of those locations - and those photos !
to bobwilcox's post, too !
- PDN.
tatansNice photos, wrong area. O.K. let's start again. On the C.P.R. rail line westward, go 3 MILES west to the intersection of the TCH and highway 1a, (do not go any further) the tracks go under the highway at this point, about 1000 feet northwest of this point is sloped bank above the tracks looking NW along the tracks and the Bow river, the tracks curve as does the river , I can't tell you how many railfans use this spot for photos, the Bow river, the tracks, the trains and the mountain background are perfect, again, this location is at the south end of highway 1a not anywhere up the roads to Lake Louise nor anywhere near highway 93 turnoff, you can walk easily from Banff to this spot.......end
Okay, so, the spot that I just posted two pictures of....the line goes into the trees as you can see and it doesn't come out again for 2 kilometres, is it possible that your scale's a little bit off and you're thinking of Mile 88 or perhaps Sawback?
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