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[quote user="tattooguy67"][quote user="GP40-2"][quote user="MichaelSol"] [quote user="GP40-2"]And let's not even get started on the environmental nightmare of mining the coal itself... [/quote]The environmental effects of that last "coal spill" were really something ...[/quote] Yes, but the trillions of gallons of acid mine drainage laced with heavy metals that is filling up the old mines in western PA is something. And you want to know something else--it is getting ready to burst into the entire Ohio River/ Lower Mississippi River ecosystem. And guess what--the Feds admitted they don't have any freaking idea how to stop it. And want to to know something else--you and every other American better get ready to get out your check book to pay Uncle Sam hundreds of billions of dollars in tax money to clean up the damage when it does happen. Enjoy your "cheap" coal. LOL[/quote]Wow this is really depressing! and let me say you bring up some good points here, unfortunatly you choose to use such a sarcastic tone i fear it is mostly lost on people, but let me ask you this, do you think it would be better to try and use modern technology in mining and the manufacture of a new generation steam locomotive to move goods around the country using a cheap abundant source of fuel, or do you think it would be better to just stay the course with diesel fuel and see what the price of a loaf of bread gets to at $220 a barrel oil?. When i started this thread i had no idea how strong the feelings where on this subject and boy howdy are they ever! and i can say i have learned a lot from reading the replies on here and for the most part they have been on the up and up and not nasty in tone and thats how i want it to stay!! there is no need to cast aspersions at some one because you do not agree with them, so please lets all be nice, and also remember the reason this thread was started was the rising cost of oil vs. coal and the practicality of bringing back some type of coal fired steam driven locomotive, thanks all!.[/quote]There are actually two subjects here that fall under your thread title.  One is whether the rising price of oil will force a substitution to coal as locomotive fuel for a new generation of coal fired steam locomotives.  A subset of that subject is whether the coal would be burned in a steam locomotive, an internal combustion engine, or a gas turbine, or if coal would be converted to liquid fuel to replace diesel fuel or burned in power plants to power electrified railroads.  The other subject is whether the railroads made the right decision when they chose to dieselize, or if they would have been better off continuing the evolution of steam development.I don't understand what you mean when you say this is really depressing, or your comments about sarcasm.
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