New Haven EP-5s

[starwardude]

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Are there any New Haven EP-5 "Jets" left? If so, where is it / are they?[?]
I really would like to see one.[:)] Thank you!!![bow]

[starwardude]

Will someone PLEEEEEEEZZZZZZZEEEEEEE reply???????????????[banghead][banghead]

[jchnhtfd]

Sorry old boy... so far as I know (I may well be wrong -- wouldn't be the first time!) there are no EP-5s left. In fact, there are precious few if any New Haven engines of ANY description, other than some odd diesels, left. They had some lovely equipment -- but the financiers had a field day, and it's a wonder there were even any tracks left by the time they all got through.

[daveklepper]

There is the E-33 electric at the Connecticut RY museum and there are the FL-9's still on Metro North property with McGinnis paint, possibly more than one. I think it occasionally shows up on the Danbury or Waterbury shuttles as relief power. Or am I behind the times? And be happy that Shore Line East diesels have McGinnis paint and probably their new electrics on order will also. Also the orange and silver scheme on Metro-North's New Haven Line mu's is the same as the New Haven's postwar lighweight passenger equipment. Other fallen flags should be so lucky! Dave Klepper P. S. Too bad a real "Shoreliner", the I-5 4-6-4 wan't saved. A beautiful steam locomotive. Rode behind one once in the summer of 1949 on the Yankee Clipper.

[starwardude]

daveklepper, which CT RY museum did you mean? The one in Essex, the one in Danbury, the one in waterbury, or the CT eastern RR museum?

[espeefoamer]

All the EP5s are history.[:(!]I saw some in dead storage,in 1978.I recall that a group,(iI don't remember which one)tried to raise enough to save one ,but it didn,t work out.It's not only EP5s,there is NO New Haven steam.[:(!]

[daveklepper]

It is either Danbury or Waterbury (they are connected, as you may know), and I saw it on a website accessed through this Trains website, museums, Connecticut. I did once ride "The Litchfield" from Lenox Massachusetts to Grand Central, on a Sunday evening, incidentally, with a silver and orange parlor car at the rear (following two American Flyers and a baggage-express) and my spending most of my time on the back platform. An FL9 pulled us without engine change to GCT. The train originated at Pittsfield and at that time they still shared the NYC (Boston and Albany) station, but later moved to a siding west of the junction. Now don't all hiss at once. Alger Hiss was a passenger in the parlor car. He was not, of course, part of "my party." But he did venture out on the back platform to figure out what I was doing there and why the conductor let me stay there despite the "No riding on platforms" sign. Dave

[Anonymous]

Sadly they are all gone. While i was involved with the Connecticut Trolley Museum (East Windsor, CT) we made an attempt thru then Congressman, Toby Moffet's office to save one. A group of us travelled to Harrisburgh where they were stored at the time. As i recall, Conrail wanted a prohibitve amount of money at the time. They seemed hell bent to cut them up before one could be saved. There are no NHRR original electrics preserved.

[TH&B]

In Holland they still have a few of thier "class1200 / 1250". These electrics where based on the NH EP5, they got different sheet metal and couplers but the same proportions. The Dutch railways considered them exellent engines but now relatively old and outdated but a few are still in service.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

The Dutch 1200's were actually licensed by Baldwin-Westinghouse and resemble double-ended versions of the PRR E2c's of the 1950's.

[daveklepper]

Correction, the E-33 rectifier electric is at the Naugatuck Railroad and Museum at Thomaston, CT. Their list of restored and restored-operating and restorable equipment may be accessed by going to Museums and Historical Sights and clicking on Connecticut, and then accessing their website. Apologies for the error. They have lots of other ex-NYNH&H equipment. More power to them! And they run trains for the public. Dave

[starwardude]

Strangely enough, my last name is Holland,and I'm wrking on an Anne Frank Project, and she lived in Holland.

[AntonioFP45]

[:)]The EP5 has always been my favorite electric locomotive (GG1 is 2nd) as I remember them as a kid in the late 60s. I was fortunate to live near the 3rd rail New York Central line and the overhead electric NH line, so I got to see a lot of action and color. Even after the PC merger, NYC and NH schemes lingered for a long while. I hope not to offend Coalminer, but after seeing the EP5s, the NYC boxcabs didn't look so attractive to me though I must admt that from what I've read of the EP5s tendencies for "electrical fires", the old Boxes were better in quality.

When I traveled with my parents towards Connecticut fron New York City, I had the opportunity to see EP5s on several occasions pulling long trains at speed. Even dirty, the sleek body style of these big locomotives stood out as most of the trains I saw were either M.Us, or FL9 powered.

[8)][;)]I'm hoping that a manufacturer will eventually produce an H.O version of the EP5a in the McGinnis scheme.

[starwardude]

I now know there is a late 1800s 4-4-0 @ the Danbury Fairgrounds. Haven't seen it yet...

[AntonioFP45]

Starwardude,

In case you may be interested:

Branford Hobbies in Connecticut will be producing a quality HO Scale version of the EP5 in the McGinnis scheme and undecorated! The body It will sit on a modified Athearn PA chassis. According to Mark, the manager, It is supposed to be available sometime in Sept-Oct 2004. He has stated that New Haven fans won't be dissappointed. Before I purchase one when the time comes, I will ask to see a picture of the model. [;)][tup]

I'm excited about the plastic unit, as I recently inquired about the brass HO EP5. It sells for $794! While it's a beautiful model that's waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy beyond my budget! [:0][:0]

The price of the Branford model is approximately $200 plus shipping & handling. I can't complain as in the past, HO models of this beauty were "non-existent".

According to the New Haven Historical Technical Society, this plastic model was given the "thumbs up". I'm not a rivet counting Nazi, so I'm not going to fuss about the PA chassis. In fact, towards the end of their careers, some of the "Jets" looked very dilapadated. It is saddening that Conrail had to scrap them.

Branford Hobbies
609 Boston Post Rd.
Branford Connecticut 06405
Tel: [phone]

Hope this makes someone's day! [:D][tup] [:)][tup]

[RudyRockvilleMD]

Hi Antonio:
Fleischman produced a cast metal model of a New Haven EP 5 back in the mid
1960's. I believe the model is made of cast zamac, but I can't be sure. I remember buying mine at Polk's Model Craft Hobbies in New York, and the price was only around $40. I still have it. Bachman recently brought out a model of the ex Virginia, Ex New Haven, Ex Penn Central, Ex Conrail E 33's. Now if they would only bring out models of the New Haven's EP 3 and EP 4's.

For Dave Klepper:
I remember riding behind one of the New Haven's I 5's on a Washington - Boston train back in the late 30's -early 40's. If you rode behind an I 5 on the Yankee Clipper even after 1942 you were very lucky because it was one of the New Haven's crack trains so it would have normally been assigned a diesel, either a PA or a DL 109.

[AntonioFP45]

RudyRockvilleMD,

Was that an O-scale unit? Sounds vaguely familiar. I've seen pictures of NH EP5s on old catalogs. I'm wondering if it's the metal unit that you're mentioning. Are there any pictures of this on the web?

Thanks![;)][:)][:P]

[RudyRockvilleMD]

Antonio:
My model is HO Gaige. I don't know of any pictures of the model on a web site.