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Was there a wreck or something?
Posted by Wyonate on Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:25 AM

Hello- 

I am just wondering if antone knows why things are so slow around my area.  I live in northern Wyoming, bottle neck of the Powder River Basin, and noramlly there is 50-70 trains a day running through here, but the past few days its been slow, very slow.  Maybe 15 trains a day.  Any one have any interesting news?  Comments?

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:44 AM
I'm guessing here, but it could be ripple effect from the mudslide.  Traffic that would go west, then south, may be going south first.

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Posted by Wyonate on Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:15 PM

 tree68 wrote:
I'm guessing here, but it could be ripple effect from the mudslide.  Traffic that would go west, then south, may be going south first.

Where was the mudslide?

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Posted by rixflix on Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:20 PM

where HAVE you been? UP in Oregon.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:39 PM

Nate, are you on the northern (BNSF) end of the basin? 

I don't think the slide has anything to do with any slowdown that involves the Powder River Basin.  Detour moves wouldn't be likely to enter Wyoming any further east than Granger, if that far.  However, these detour trains are making life miserable for velocity-minded people in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Utah.

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Posted by Doublestack on Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:23 AM
UP had 2 shut downs this week west of you due to the earthquake at Wells.  Had to shut down and inspect track. (NorCal - Salt Lake route.)
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:51 AM

 Doublestack wrote:
UP had 2 shut downs this week west of you due to the earthquake at Wells.  Had to shut down and inspect track. (NorCal - Salt Lake route.)

Earthquake, you say?

Elaborate.

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Posted by Wyonate on Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:34 AM
 rixflix wrote:

where HAVE you been? UP in Oregon.

RIX

Hey man, I live in Wyoming.  Our news comes by pony express. lol.

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Posted by Wyonate on Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:43 AM
 CShaveRR wrote:

Nate, are you on the northern (BNSF) end of the basin? 

I don't think the slide has anything to do with any slowdown that involves the Powder River Basin.  Detour moves wouldn't be likely to enter Wyoming any further east than Granger, if that far.  However, these detour trains are making life miserable for velocity-minded people in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Utah.

Yep, northern BNSF end.  We do get some PGEX trains, but not enough to slow traffic down this bad.  I know coal haulage rates go down a little this time of the year.  But I used to work for a coal mine and I can't picture any mine slowing down enough to keep pace with this kind of traffic.  One other thing I was thinking was, did the new DM&E line go in?  Becaude that would do it.  As of 1 year ago, I know AMES Construction got the bid to do 265 miles of new track coming into the PRB. From Wall, S.D. to (I think) to Newcastle, Wyoming.  But 265 miles in a year?  I thought it was a 2 year job.  Any info on that?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:16 PM
 Wyonate wrote:
 CShaveRR wrote:

Nate, are you on the northern (BNSF) end of the basin? 

I don't think the slide has anything to do with any slowdown that involves the Powder River Basin.  Detour moves wouldn't be likely to enter Wyoming any further east than Granger, if that far.  However, these detour trains are making life miserable for velocity-minded people in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Utah.

Yep, northern BNSF end.  We do get some PGEX trains, but not enough to slow traffic down this bad.  I know coal haulage rates go down a little this time of the year.  But I used to work for a coal mine and I can't picture any mine slowing down enough to keep pace with this kind of traffic.  One other thing I was thinking was, did the new DM&E line go in?  Becaude that would do it.  As of 1 year ago, I know AMES Construction got the bid to do 265 miles of new track coming into the PRB. From Wall, S.D. to (I think) to Newcastle, Wyoming.  But 265 miles in a year?  I thought it was a 2 year job.  Any info on that?

DM&E is still just on the drawing board at this point, with no real guarantee it will happen.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:28 PM

How deep is the snow up there ? Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by JSGreen on Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:54 PM
 trainboyH16-44 wrote:

 Doublestack wrote:
UP had 2 shut downs this week west of you due to the earthquake at Wells.  Had to shut down and inspect track. (NorCal - Salt Lake route.)

Earthquake, you say?

Elaborate.

Wells, Nevada, Thursday....this article from Bloomberg.

Magnitued 6.3, no injuries reported.  BUt I am pretty sure they would want toinspect some bridges....

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Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:36 PM
I must be missing something, How cold a slide in Oregon or a earthquake in Wells possibly affect the PRB?Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Wyonate on Monday, February 25, 2008 9:46 AM
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How deep is the snow up there ? Big Smile [:D]

Well we had a good one about a month ago, 20" but, on the ground now...... spoty, 4" here and there, and bare ground. This was shot Friday and its trying to snow now but we'll see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-CoEP5BktU

This was one of maybe 8 trains all day.  And it was really weird seeing a Dash 9 in a coal consist.  Normally around here its all big AC units and the DC units are all EMD....?  Maybe a power shortage, I doubt it but....  ????  Traffic has picked up a little, but not anything like last week.  I made a short slide show on http://thetrainzstation.freeforums.org/golfingrobert-well-t390.html That was all shot in 3 hours. And it never slows down, its always like that.  Don't know why things are so slow, possibly an earthquake, mudslide, a wreck, I don't know whats going on. 

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Posted by Wyonate on Monday, February 25, 2008 10:45 AM
Well, I found a clue.  There is a train owned by UCEX headed west loaded, when it gets to Billings it will be rerouted to where, I don't know.  I will need to look up UCEX in rrarchives.com or .net and see were it is going.  UCEX is not a usual train for around here.  Ok, evedently its headed for Edwardsville, KS.  This is not normal. lol :)
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Posted by miniwyo on Monday, February 25, 2008 6:05 PM
Nate, I havent seen anything down this way that might strike me as odd. They are running trains like you would not believe!

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Posted by Wyonate on Monday, February 25, 2008 9:52 PM

 miniwyo wrote:
Nate, I havent seen anything down this way that might strike me as odd. They are running trains like you would not believe!

Huh?  I checked with a few connections a have and nobody knows of anything.  It just strikes me kinda odd that it would all the sudden just basicly stop.  Strike maybe?  And the UCEX that ran through this morning?? Huh?  I'm still digging. lol I hope curiousity don't get me on this one.  My house faces the track, I don't miss a train :) The MTPX come through as usual, its kind of a local, it just runs to Billings, normally 2 SD60s and about 65-70 cars.  But the long haulers are very slow.  Still.

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Posted by miniwyo on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:05 AM
You know... It might be that you are up in BNSF Country, And all I have here in RS is the Armor Yellow Borg. But I am still not seeing much change in service either from the slides or the quakes. Actually, I am kind of impressed. They havent parked a train in town for more than a few hours in months as opposed to parking one or 2 for a week here and there.

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Posted by Wyonate on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:47 AM
I don't know.  Its picked up a little now, I don't belive its back up to par.  I planned on goingout today and recording more trains (found a new spot).  But if they ain't running.......well I'll just have to wait :)
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Posted by Wyonate on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:46 PM
Well, I guess confusion might get me.  Everything is back to normal.  There are two trains on the siding in front of my house right now and another one headed up Parkman Pass, and one more chasing it.  Don't know??? Still curious though. lol  Things are back to normal, house is shaking and my foundation is crumbling once again. :)
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