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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman But Mark, Sir... Goign back to an earlier post... Your saying you bought Both GE's... EMD's...and ALCO's Looking at it from the side of buissness ethics, Suppose you bought 10 of each... 10 EMD's ...10 GE's.... and 10 ALCO's.... Now you have 30 happily chugginag along locomotives, now assuming you were the manager or owner of this Railway, Obviously you or you would Hire someone to balance the books, right? So lets say you keep having to spend Money, and more money into ALCOs because they keep failing, wouldn't it be Bad buisness ethics to purchase any more ALCOs if you have to keep putting money into them.. and they kept failing.. lets say you need to purcahse 50 more locomotives.. and the 30 you previously bought, noly 1 alco is still operationg-- Smoking like hell, but opperationg, that would be, no offence, incredibly stupid to purchase any more ALCOs. Why purchase a product when it is trash? wouldn't the next 50 locomotives be 50 EMD's and 50 GE's and ZERO alco's?? [/quote] Kevin [:)] You are always telling us how bad Alcos are. But yet this is just your opinion. Now you and I have disagreed before. Even Ed and I have disagreed before. But the one good thing about it is that we all are still friends and email each other. Back when someone emailed you and made a possible threat to you I didn't agree with you then but I defended you right to state your opinion. I still defend your right to have and voice your opinion. And knowing you, I do know that you WILL state your opinion no matter who lies it or doesn't like it. And that my friend, is your right. From people I have talked to personally, the engineers who ran Alcos liked them. They were excellent pulling machines which is exactly what they were bought for and accomplished. Railroads who maintained them found them to be reliable locos, and not only reliable but long lasting. Railroads who bought just a few and didn't maintain them didn't like them, but was that the fault of Alco or the fault of the maintaince practices? Even today you can find Alco pulling trains on short lines and regionals. Canada just in the last few years phased out most of the Alcos they were running in Class 1 service. An Alco that was maintained correctly is a good engine even today. The 251 engine is still in service in locomotives and marine applications and even used in other areas. The 251 engine was and is a good product. Now we all know that both EMD and GE have made some dogs. Just recently one of our engineer forum members made a comment that a certain GE model was gone now and he was very glad about that. Please consider dogging out EMD and GE for their bad products. Alco's 244 engine had some failures in piston rods and maybe some other areas. But the 251 engine was an excellent engine. Other countries bought Alcos by the hundreds. The "World Locomotive" was an Alco product. Alco was a leader in exporting locomotives overseas. There are railroads who are entirely Alco powered, even today. You can still find Alcos in good shape around American and maybe Canada. Someone emailed me some pics of Canadians Alcos before I had my computer virus. Now they are gone, because I had to reformatt my hard drive. Give me an older but well maintained Alco and it will run and pull as well as any loco of its time frame. The older hoggers liked them. Try it you might like it toooooooooooo. Oh that was Mikey, not Kevin. Aww well, go ahead Kevin and give it a try. [:D]
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