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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by ValleyX Yep, I made one trip on 765 and it took me a l-o-n-g time in the shower to clean up. As for the other discussion concerning Alco's, I made a few trips on the old N&W 1100's that were later sold to the C&NW for operations on their Michigan ore lines. What a rough rider they were, as were the old T-6 switchers that N&W had, as well as noisy, smelly, etc. Give me a trio of SD-45-2's and line me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] Dear ValleyX Noisy, SMELLY?! These are two of the most anti-steam statements I have heard since someone described steam locomotives as "hideous." If the sounds of railroading are music, then steam locomotives are the New York Symphony, the Itzak Perlman and the Jean Pierre Rompelle of the railroad world (by the way, that also makes Alco the Beetoven). In my mind, there are few sounds which could ever compare with six 2-10-2's using their boilers to the maximum pushing a massive drag-freight up Cajon Pass, or double-heading Big Boys showing their worth on Sherman's Hill. It made some children afraid, others it delighted. Go see double heading K-36's pulling hard up Cumbres Pass on the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad if you doubt me. And SMELLY? Of all the smells in the world, few can compare with those of a steam locomotive. If they ever made it, Steam Locomotive Cologne would probably be the only one I would even give a second thought! Yes, I know all about cinders, but that's part of being a railroader (and a railfan): getting a massive cinder in your eye from a coal burner, only to stick your head right out the window again. And let's face it---railroading is not a profession for the fastidious nor those disinclined to work! But go ahead and have your SD-45's! Leave the steamers to those of us who can properly appreciate them for what they are---some of the most amazing, wonderful, and appealing machines ever conceived of. I would take double headed Big Boys any day, even if they aren't so clean. And dear Mookie[bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow], I never was lucky enough to have experience with mainline steam. However, many late members of my family were, mostly for the AT&SF. And let me say, STEAM WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE KING!!! [bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow] [bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow][bow] Well, I will now step down from the soap box[soapbox]. That's my two cents[2c] No offense to anyone. Most respectfully yours, Danile
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