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EMD and GE - Why so much anti GE feeling on the list? Light the blue touchpaper and retire
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Dear Kevin, <br />Sorry about Jaques-Cartier. Here in California we have a designer watch company called Cartier, so that was what I was thinking of. Of course, one of the unfortunate side effects of living in California is that you start thinking of every name that even remotely resembles that of a designer or whatever as the designer. I need to move somewhere.... And besides, being a railfan is the ultimate in "un-cool" or whatever the "popular" people are saying now.... And of course, here in California it seems like every other person tries to beat the train at crossings (especially if they drive big cars, ignoring the fact that the train ways about 125 times as much as they do). Either that, or their radio is turned up too loud to hear the horn. <br /> <br />Of course, not hearing the horn/bell is not hard to do these days, with all the people complaining about noise from the trains (noise???that's music, and it sounds a lot better than most of the music I hear anyway, wheter it's EMD, GE, Alco, or Lionel)! But you don't want to hear that story.... Oh, you do want to hear that story? You sure? Okay, I'll tell you the story: <br /> <br />I live within a bicycle ride of the new Gold Line light rail line from Los Angeles to east Pasadena. This line used to be the old Pasadena Subdivision of the AT&SF (its first route into Los Angeles). And, now that it is completed, many people are still complaining about the horns and bells on the electric cars. This sounds positively absurd to me! <br />The people who live there have for the most part lived there for over a decade (the Pasadena Sub has been gone for about 9 years now). The Pasadena Sub had some of the steepest grades on the entire Santa Fe system. This necessitated helpers, such as 5001 class 2-10-4's, 2900 class 4-8-4's and a lot of other massive steamers. And after steam was gone, there were still large amounts of diesels, although most of the through freight traffic had by then gone to the Santa Fe's newer line into LA south of the Pasadena Sub. Today, the Gold Line operates electric railcars, which compared to the old AT&SF equipment is practically silent! What are these people complaining about?! And even those who moved into the neighborhood during the past 10 years new that the Gold Line was coming in, in fact many of them probably moved here because of it! So what are they complaining about?! In addition, the "horns" on these railcars (if you can call them horns) are very quiet, and are more like buzzers than horns. From a car you can hardly hear them, if at all. And the horns only blow for crossings anyway, not your usual set of whistle signals. So what are these people complaining about?! And if someone gets hit because they could not hear the horn, then the same people who were anti-horn will be those saying it was the Gold Line's fault! This is lunacy! <br /> <br /><font color="limegreen"><font size="6">STEAM WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE KING!</font id="size6"></font id="limegreen"> <br /> <br />Me---the pro-horn, <br />Daniel
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