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This is how we do it.......We count cars by the number of control valves. Now, the weird part is that permanently connected cars (via solid drawbars, or articulated) are considered one car with multiple segments. The segments are numbered like this: A 5 pack double stack (QY) would be numbered from the "b" end......B-E-D-C-A (each letter represents a well or segment. For car counting purposes, they are counted by the number of control valves that they have. A QO is a 5 pack spine car with 3 control valves, so on the train list (wheel report) it is counted as 3 cars. So if you had a train consisting of (10) 5 pack spines, your wheel report would show your train as being 30 cars long. Even though it has 5 platforms it is still counted as three. A QD is a pair of flats joined togeather by a solid drawbar, it is 2 stand alone (non articulated) cars, so it is counted as two cars for car count purposes (still numbered as one car). A QV is a double stack articulated 3 well car, it is counted as 2 cars (2 control valves). This is the way that these cars show up on the train list. For distance purposes, i.e. when giving the engineer a car count to a joint, etc. I give 50ft car lengths. Hope this helps. On a trip quite some time ago, an old head gave me some schoolin' and it hasn't failed me yet. Pretty sharp some of those old hogs....Its been awhile, but, I think that our System Special Instructions back up what this old hogger explained to me. <br />Kenny
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